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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: Editor for Forth |
| Date | 2017-05-10 21:11 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On 5/10/2017 8:59 PM, Cecil Bayona wrote: > On 5/10/2017 7:42 PM, rickman wrote: >> On 5/10/2017 8:05 PM, Cecil Bayona wrote: >>> On 5/10/2017 6:06 PM, rickman wrote: >>>> On 5/10/2017 6:07 PM, Cecil Bayona wrote: >>>>> Which programmers editor would be recommended for use with Forth? I >>>>> would prefer something free or at least under $100 as my funds are >>>>> rather limited. >>>>> >>>>> I would like a programmers editor with you basic features; >>>>> >>>>> Able to open more than one file at a time. >>>>> Print listings with line numbers. >>>>> Understand Forth so it can autocomplete structures such as IF etc. >>>>> Be able to use color to identify Forth Words, numbers, etc. >>>>> If I have to pay money then I would like it to know how to >>>>> interface to >>>>> at least VFX, and SwiftForth. >>>>> >>>>> There are some free programmer editors that can take a file to >>>>> customize >>>>> it to a language any suitable for Forth use? >>>>> >>>>> Any thoughts or preferences? >>>> >>>> I would say Codewright, but it is unobtainium these days. I'm >>>> currently learning SciTE. It is available for all PC platforms. I'm >>>> not doing as well as I would like because I haven't found much in the >>>> way of learning materials. >>>> >>>> I had been looking at emacs. It is available on all platforms and has >>>> tons of learning materials. But it seems I just can't get up the >>>> learning curve. They want you to learn all manner of goofy keystrokes >>>> which would have worked well with me when I was 20, but the grey >>>> matter has hardened too much now. >>>> >>>> SciTE does syntax highlighting and makes indentation easy, but I've >>>> never found any editor that completes structures for you. I'd like >>>> that for VHDL. :) >>>> >>>> I discovered that the IDE editor with Win32Forth has similar roots to >>>> SciTE. The "about" says it is based on SciEdit and it has a similar >>>> icon. But maybe I'm making a connection where there isn't one. >>>> >>>> I wonder if the Win32Forth IDE can be easily used for other purposes >>>> such as connecting to remote target command lines? If you do >>>> embedded, that might be something to add to your list. Emacs can do >>>> that, but then emacs can do *anything* if you learn enough about it. >>>> >>> >>> Unobtanium? I wondered about that until I did a search, Embarcadero, I >>> loved Delphi and was a happy camper, then they bought Borland and raised >>> the prices through the roof so I can no longer afford it. Borland >>> editors for a long time had the feature of completing conditional, and >>> loop structure for you. Visual Studio Code has that feature and I use it >>> with Go, Python, and other languages, it's available for Windows, Linux, >>> and Macs, but not for Forth. >>> >>> eMacs, and Vi are out of the running, they have an extremely steep >>> learning curve and I rather save my brain cells for something else. For >>> Linux platforms there is Karen which I like, and I'm not super familiar >>> with SciTE but it's part of the apps loaded on my Linux installations, I >>> will have to look at it in more detail. >> >> My copy of Codewright broke some months ago and I haven't done >> anything requiring a text editor since. I want to get back to the >> embedded Forth stuff so I am forging ahead with SciTE. I just want to >> get past the painful part which I haven't quite done yet. >> >> If I find this is the editor for me - and I get done with documenting >> some of the Mecrisp stuff, I will spend some time putting together >> something to help others get off the ground with SciTE. >> >> I'm also over Thunderbird for newsgroups. My copy is just a big piece >> of crap. It bogs down all the time. If I am editing and continue >> typing sometimes it switches windows on me and starts types it into >> the main window with bizarre results. >> > Don't you have a copy of the install files? I have quite a few copies on > paid for software scattered all over just in case Maybe somewhere, but that was an older copy. At one time the software seemed abandoned with no one selling it. So I upgraded to the latest version from some web site. After that I just copied it from machine to machine. It was running on this PC for some time and when I was trying to fix my machine by running in "safe" mode a while back Codewright stopped working right. It will run, but is in some seriously basic mode where it won't recognize most keystrokes like Cntl-C Cntl-V. It's a shame as it was a *very* full featured editor and supported any language you could name. But, time to move on as I will be working under Linux some anyway. Maybe a lot... > Thunderbird has some issues with me but I have little choice as I have > about 70K emails I have saved over the years and converting to something > else will be a pain. Thunderbird had some issues with taking minutes > while going from one email to the other but now it's working fine. My > favorite mail program was MacMail but they have changed it so much that > it's not the same program anymore. Thunderbird is a poor second place. I'm similarly stuck with Eudora and it's still working ok. As my screens get more pixels the writing gets smaller and smaller though. I found how to fix that for the messages so that's ok. But the controls can be very hard to read. -- Rick C
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Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-10 17:07 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 15:47 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-10 18:52 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 19:06 -0400
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-10 19:05 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 20:42 -0400
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-10 19:59 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 21:11 -0400
Re: Editor for Forth Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 17:36 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth Mark C <mdcorbin@googlemail.com> - 2017-05-14 07:33 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-10 20:39 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2017-05-11 07:09 +0200
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-11 00:57 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 09:15 +0300
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-11 01:35 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 09:49 +0300
Re: Editor for Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-10 23:42 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-11 01:53 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 09:59 +0300
Re: Editor for Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 04:32 -0400
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-11 05:52 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 14:07 +0300
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-11 07:10 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 14:10 -0400
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-11 00:15 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2017-05-11 07:53 +0200
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-11 01:20 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-10 23:44 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2017-05-11 08:57 +0200
Re: Editor for Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-05-11 04:34 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-11 06:29 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-05-11 07:05 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 08:05 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-12 19:34 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 18:21 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-12 21:53 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 23:37 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-13 02:50 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 00:11 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 14:41 -0400
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-11 15:44 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 10:52 +0300
Re: Editor for Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-05-12 02:28 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 12:43 -0400
Re: Editor for Forth Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 10:17 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-05-13 04:39 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth Jan Coombs <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com> - 2017-05-11 08:33 +0100
Re: Editor for Forth Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 07:09 +0300
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-11 00:22 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 08:35 +0300
Re: Editor for Forth JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-05-11 00:46 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-05-11 00:50 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 00:32 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2017-05-11 08:03 +0000
Re: Editor for Forth Mark C <mdcorbin@googlemail.com> - 2017-05-12 04:50 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 12:54 -0400
Re: Editor for Forth Mark C <mdcorbin@googlemail.com> - 2017-05-14 07:09 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 13:48 -0400
Re: Editor for Forth Mark C <mdcorbin@googlemail.com> - 2017-05-14 11:10 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth peter.m.falth@gmail.com - 2017-05-14 14:28 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 23:02 -0400
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-15 00:03 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth peter.m.falth@gmail.com - 2017-05-15 13:33 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-12 19:35 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 21:16 -0400
Re: Editor for Forth Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 22:53 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 02:51 -0400
Re: Editor for Forth Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 00:02 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-05-13 13:36 +0200
Re: Editor for Forth Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2017-05-13 09:09 +0200
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-13 02:41 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 10:31 -0400
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-20 16:43 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-20 15:32 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 18:57 -0400
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-20 18:16 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-20 16:40 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 22:04 -0400
Re: Editor for Forth Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 07:04 +0300
Re: Editor for Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-05-21 06:53 +0000
Re: Editor for Forth Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 10:24 +0300
Re: Editor for Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-05-21 14:54 +0000
Re: Editor for Forth albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-05-21 20:11 +0200
Re: Editor for Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 14:23 -0400
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-21 13:23 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-20 18:15 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-20 18:33 -0500
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