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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: Editor for Forth |
| Date | 2017-05-14 23:02 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <ofb5iu$a7b$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 5/14/2017 5:28 PM, peter.m.falth@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, 14 May 2017 16:09:14 UTC+2, Mark C wrote: >> On Friday, 12 May 2017 17:54:03 UTC+1, rickman wrote: >>> On 5/12/2017 7:50 AM, Mark C wrote: >>>> On Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:07:35 UTC+1, Cecil - k5nwa wrote: >>>>> Which programmers editor would be recommended for use with Forth? I >>>>> would prefer something free or at least under $100 as my funds are >>>>> rather limited. >>>>> >>>>> I would like a programmers editor with you basic features; >>>>> >>>>> Able to open more than one file at a time. Print listings with line >>>>> numbers. Understand Forth so it can autocomplete structures such as >>>>> IF etc. Be able to use color to identify Forth Words, numbers, >>>>> etc. If I have to pay money then I would like it to know how to >>>>> interface to at least VFX, and SwiftForth. >>>>> >>>>> There are some free programmer editors that can take a file to >>>>> customize it to a language any suitable for Forth use? >>>>> >>>>> Any thoughts or preferences? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> -- Cecil - k5nwa >>>> >>>> I've written Forth syntax highlighters for gedit, jEdit, UltraEdit >>>> and Kate. They should be part of their respective packages - if not, >>>> they are available here: >>>> >>>> http://www.dibsco.co.uk/forth/syntax/gedit >>>> >>>> The file extension '.4th' is used by most of them (the gedit >>>> developers specifically asked me to remove '.fs' as it clashed with >>>> Fortran). >>>> >>>> I have another one in development for SciTE/Scintilla, but it seems >>>> to be taking me an eternity to get round to finishing it :-) >>> >>> I typically use '.f' for forth source files. Is that also used for >>> Fortran? >> >> The extension '.f' is used for Fortran and '.fs' is used for FSharp. I've found that the safest way to avoid clashes is to use '.4th' and '.forth'. >> >>> >>> I'm having some problems getting up the learning curve with SciTE. Can >>> you point me to any teaching materials? I've found info on the >>> properties files, but it is written to explain the commands rather than >>> showing how to do various things. I'm having trouble controlling the >>> font used and the mono/proportional flag. Is there an explanation of >>> how this works? Does setting the monospace feature only display the >>> font.monospace for all items while having it off allows multiple type >>> faces to be used? Any idea what the list of type faces is? I'd like to >>> explore alternate monospaced fonts. Or maybe I'm using tabs incorrectly? >> >> I have been doing quite a bit of work with SciTE, but haven't looked at the fonts at all. >> >> I should point out that the Forth highlighter for SciTE doesn't work by default. It won't match any keywords at all, so almost everything is highlighted as 'Idenitifer' (which seems to be the default state for anything that is not recognised). The Forth lexer converts the incoming text to lowercase, but the keywords in the forth.properties file are all in uppercase - so they never match. You can edit forth.properties and convert the keywords to lowercase, but there are still other issues with the highlighting: >> >> - words starting with characters other than a-z are not highlighted correctly. >> - floating point numbers are not highlighted correct (as per the ANS-94 regex definition) >> >> It is also worth noting that: >> >> - it highlights control words separately, which doesn't appear to be a common approach across other language highlighters that I have looked at. >> - it provides highlighting for an 'unknown' dialect of Forth. >> - it doesn't support code folding. >> >> The new version that I am currently working on supports the ANS-94 standard, including all wordsets, and also provides code folding. I have looked at implementing word autocompletion, but I'm not sure whether it will operate correctly. Most syntax highlighting systems that I have looked at are much friendlier to a C-style syntax and are tricky to configure for use with a more free-form language like Forth. >> >> Regards >> >> Mark > > I have rewritten the forth lexer in SciTe to support context sensitive > coloring. I have used this for many years and really like it. > I did look at implementing folding but found that I would not use it. > > As the lexer is written in C++ it is quite easy to modify and customize > to your needs. Even for a non C++ programmer like me! > > If you like a copy (source or compiled) please tell me Sure, you will need to give me explicit instructions on how to use it. I'm running Windows 8 presently. -- Rick C
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Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-15 00:03 -0500
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Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-12 19:35 -0500
Re: Editor for Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 21:16 -0400
Re: Editor for Forth Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 22:53 -0700
Re: Editor for Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 02:51 -0400
Re: Editor for Forth Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 00:02 -0700
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Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-13 02:41 -0500
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Re: Editor for Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 14:23 -0400
Re: Editor for Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-21 13:23 -0500
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