Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > sci.physics > #621471

Re: Oxygen shortens your life.

Show all headers | View raw

Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> writes:

>As appealing as "immortal cancer cells" sounds, 
>I doubt you'd ever benefit from the research, Michael Moroney.

Who knows? I probably already have.  This cell line is VERY popular in
research and has been used to develop and test vaccines.  It is about as
immortal as any living thing can be, it is very easy to grow, to the point
where researchers working with other cell lines had their work ruined 
because a HeLa cell got in their culture, multiplied and took over.
60 years and going quite strong.

>Oxygen shortens your life.


Bad Relf science, WAY oversimplified.  It's DNA damage and running out of
telomeres that shortens life. DNA damage can be caused by free radicals,
but their level is NOT proportional to an organism's oxygen usage.  
(Otherwise, people with emphysema, smokers (who have some of their
hemoglobin and myoglobin disabled by carbon monoxide) and sedentary people
would live longer than people with normal lungs, nonsmokers and people who
regularly exercise, when the opposite is true.  And I already corrected
you regarding bees, yet you ignored it and repeated your foolishness.

It's the amount of antioxidants which fight free radicals that mainly
determine the level of free radicals.  Also the ability to repair DNA, 
which is better in some species than others. For example, naked mole rats
have the same level of reactive oxygen species (free radicals produced by
oxygen) as the mouse but live 10 times as long. They have a much better
DNA repair mechanism than the mouse, which is why they live longer despite
similar reactive oxygen species levels.

Back to sci.physics | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

Re: 100 year old people are all short and skinny. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-03-02 13:36 +1100
  Re: "Life Extension" comes at a price. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-03-02 15:16 +1100
    Re: "Life Extension" comes at a price. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-02 19:31 +0000
      Oxygen shortens your life. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-03-02 16:12 -0800
        Re: Oxygen shortens your life. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-04 17:55 +0000
          You can't change how you were built. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-03-04 13:23 -0800
            Re: Jeff Relf wrong yet again. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-04 23:07 +0000
              Michael Moroney is a spastic moron, period. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-03-04 15:50 -0800
                Re: Michael Moroney is a spastic moron, period. Jeannette Winebarger <taJaot@eeoJnee.org> - 2017-03-05 00:05 +0000
                Re: Michael Moroney is a spastic moron, period. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-05 02:58 +0000
                Re: Michael Moroney is a spastic moron, period. Jeannette Winebarger <taJaot@eeoJnee.org> - 2017-03-05 13:28 +0000
                Re: Michael Moroney is a spastic moron, period. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-03-08 08:42 +1100
                Re: Michael Moroney is a spastic moron, period. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 16:23 -0600
                Re: Michael Moroney is a spastic moron, period. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-07 17:54 -0500
                Re: Michael Moroney is a spastic moron, period. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 16:25 -0800
                Re: Michael Moroney is a spastic moron, period. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-08 03:35 +0000
                Re: Michael Moroney is a spastic moron, period. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-03-09 04:35 +1100
                Re: Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge is a spastic moron, period. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-08 22:33 +0000
                Re: Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge is a spastic moron, period. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-03-10 05:26 +1100
                Re: Michael Moroney is a spastic moron, period. Eddie Zamudio <du@dddzwwaz.da> - 2017-03-06 15:15 +0000
                Re: Jeff Relf knows he has no answers to what I wrote. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-05 02:56 +0000
            Re: You can't change how you were built. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-04 18:24 -0500
      Re: Re: "Life Extension" comes at a price. Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-03-03 18:33 -0500
        Re: "Life Extension" comes at a price. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-06 17:18 +0000
    Re: "Life Extension" comes at a price. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-03 07:03 -0600
    Re: "Life Extension" comes at a price. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-03-08 13:04 -0800
  Re: 100 year old people are all short and skinny. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-02 14:11 +0000
    Re: 100 year old people are all short and skinny. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-02 11:34 -0800
      Re: 100 year old people are all short and skinny. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-03-02 13:36 -0800
        Re: 100 year old people are all short and skinny. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-03-02 16:49 -0800
      How Many Heartbeats Do You Have Left ? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-03-02 16:27 -0800
        What the fuck is wrong with you Relf? Bubonic Betty <thecrusher191919@tearitup.org> - 2017-03-03 03:41 +0000
          How Many Heartbeats Do You Have Left ? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-03-02 20:02 -0800
  Re: 100 year old people are all short and skinny. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-03 17:36 -0500

csiph-web