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Re: Silver mirror

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Silver mirror
Date 2017-02-06 13:35 -0600
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On 2/6/2017 9:27 AM, Ed Lake wrote:
> This is the same argument "rotchm" makes.  It could be the tree that hit the car and not the car
> that hit the tree.  I.e., no one cares about CAUSES, the only care about the physics.  Nope.
> Most people care about causes, NOT the physics.
>
> I understand that the laws of physics are not concerned with whether the tree ran into the car or
> the car ran into the tree, but in the REAL WORLD where people want to understand what happened and
> what CAUSED the accident, people DO CARE.
>
> We live in different worlds.  I'm an analyst, an inventor and an amateur scientist.  I'm interested
> in how things work in this world.  You seem to be only interested in how the math and physics work.
>
> We do not live in a universe where there exists only two space ships passing one another and no one
> knows who is moving and who is not.  We live in a universe where there are countless reference points
> to tell who is moving and who is not, PLUS there were people who used science and physics to CAUSE
> their space ships to move, so they KNOW who is moving and how fast relative to the universe around them.
>
> Ed

Ed, I gather that what you are now lamenting is that physicists do not 
describe things in the way that ordinary people would like to have them 
described. You have certain vague notions about "physical effect", 
"cause", and "properties of matter", and you have this fervent belief 
that people really want to have nature described according to these 
native notions. This is an appeal to common sense and common experience.

What physicists will tell you, however, is that nature doesn't give a 
damn about how humans are accustomed to thinking about things. And 
furthermore, the average human has fundamentally WRONG gut feelings 
about how nature works. Aristotle believed that the natural state of all 
things is at rest, and that it takes a continuing force to maintain a 
state of motion. This believe matches customary thought and so it 
appealed to many. It is, however, flat wrong, and Galileo was the one to 
show that it is wrong. Your notion that motion can only arise as a 
result of a force is a good example of a preconception that is flat wrong.

Physicists say instead that it is their mandate to figure out the rules 
that nature operates by, regardless whether that matches our own native 
expectations. And there are lots of surprises. Getting rid of these 
incorrect preconceptions is a key step in understanding how nature 
really works.

I would encourage you, Ed, to stop your present process of "just 
thinking about things", because you cannot identify your own mistaken 
preconceptions. This is the reason why actually STUDYING physics, 
starting from basics, is a good idea -- because you'll find plenty of 
cases well short of relativity where you'll say, "Oh, whoa, really? I 
had no idea things really worked that way."


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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                Re: Moving Clocks Run Slow or... Fast, Einsteinians Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 09:35 -0600
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                Re: Moving Clocks Run Slow or... Fast, Einsteinians? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-01-28 09:54 -0800
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                Re: Moving Clocks Run Slow or... Fast, Einsteinians? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-01-28 12:45 -0800
                Silver mirror (was: Moving Clocks Run Slow...) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-01-28 13:40 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror (was: Moving Clocks Run Slow...) Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-01-28 12:56 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror (was: Moving Clocks Run Slow...) "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-28 14:13 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror (was: Moving Clocks Run Slow...) "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-28 14:17 -0800
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                Re: Silver mirror (was: Moving Clocks Run Slow...) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 09:12 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror (was: Moving Clocks Run Slow...) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-02-02 09:48 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror (was: Moving Clocks Run Slow...) Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-02 14:11 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 16:36 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-03 10:07 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 12:29 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-03 14:06 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 16:50 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-04 09:06 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 09:20 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-04 10:23 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 10:44 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-02-04 19:54 +0100
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-04 13:15 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 16:34 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-05 09:32 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-02-05 18:40 +0100
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-05 10:00 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 13:36 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-05 11:48 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 15:10 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-06 06:47 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-06 07:04 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 13:34 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-02-06 14:23 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 13:33 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 10:33 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 20:29 -0500
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 10:22 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 10:26 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 10:30 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror (was: Moving Clocks Run Slow...) "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-02 16:34 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror (was: Moving Clocks Run Slow...) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 19:13 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror (was: Moving Clocks Run Slow...) Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-03 09:42 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 11:54 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-03 13:22 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 15:55 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-04 07:56 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 08:13 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-04 10:16 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 10:36 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-04 13:06 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-02-04 22:08 +0100
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 16:40 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-05 09:38 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 15:20 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-02-05 23:27 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-06 06:51 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 07:14 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 13:35 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 07:30 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-06 07:27 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-06 07:38 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 08:05 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-06 08:16 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 09:21 -0800

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