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Re: Silver mirror

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Silver mirror
Date 2017-02-08 14:15 -0600
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On 2/8/2017 9:20 AM, Ed Lake wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 4:38:42 PM UTC-6, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 2/7/2017 4:20 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I recently also watched a video by Professor Michel van Biezen, who
>>>> appears to teach at Loyola
>>>> Marymount University in Los Angeles.  What he is saying about
>>>> Einstein's Second Postulate to his
>>>> Special Theory of Relativity is CRAP.  He explains that a lot of
>>>> people disagree with him, but
>>>> he's teaching it anyway.  Apparently because it is part of the
>>>> prescribed course.
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5BlfD2sDoQ
>>>
>>> Again, notice that you did not have any opportunity to ask van Biezen
>>> your questions. You just call it CRAP and dismiss it. I saw nothing in
>>> that video that was wrong, and he didn't say anything that other people
>>> would disagree with in that 4 minute video. What did you find wrong with
>>> it? Quote the statement you found either in conflict with fact or is
>>> confusing to you?
>>>
>>
>> I stumbled on your web page account of what you heard from van Biezen
>> that you took exception to. You state: "But then Prof. van Biezen goes
>> on to tell his students that Observer-B will not see the light coming
>> toward him at 186,000 miles per second plus the speed of Observer-B's
>> space ship.  Somehow, magically, the light will slow down so that
>> Observer-B will see the light coming at him at only 186,000 miles per
>> second.  Prof. van Biezen doesn't explain why or how this happens, he
>> just explains that that is how he interprets what Einstein wrote and
>> therefore it must be true."
>>
>> So you reject his statement, you say you disagree with it, but the basis
>> of your disagreement is that you cannot see how this is possible, and so
>> it must be wrong! Furthermore, you insist that because he did not
>> explain (in this four minutes) how it IS possible, then this is further
>> evidence that it is wrong.
>>
>> But what van Biezen did not tell you is that, regardless of how magical
>> this seems, and how much it defies your intuition, this is an
>> EXPERIMENTAL FACT. That is, it has been TESTED in the laboratory that
>> there is a laboratory approaching a source of light at a high velocity,
>> and the speed of light is in fact NOT different than 186,000 mps but is
>> in fact only 186,000 mps. So what Einstein said is in fact in agreement
>> with experimental observation REGARDLESS whether you understand how this
>> is possible or not.
>
> No, it is NOT an experimental fact.

Yes, it is. I'm willing to bet that you are unaware of the experiments 
that show that the speed of light is c regardless of the motion of the 
observer. What experiments do YOU think you have read on this subject?

> It is an experimental fact that van Beizen is WRONG.  I'm writing a paper on it,
> and I have examined the papers that argue both sides of the issue.  Your
> side has NO experiments where the speed of light is seen to be c when the outside
> observer is moving.

You're flat wrong. You are UNAWARE of those publications, but that does 
not mean they do not exist. Perhaps if you actually READ something on 
the subject that could POINT you to those papers.....

> I go through the papers one by one, and they just argue that the movement
> of the EMITTER does not add to the speed of light.
>
> In my paper I then describe scientific papers which CONFIRM that light coming
> to a moving observer will arrive at the speed of light plus the speed of the
> observer.  THERE IS NO REASON TO BELIEVE OTHERWISE.

Experimental evidence, which you are apparently unaware of, is reason to 
believe otherwise.

>
> Think of this situation:  Source-A emits light toward Observers 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5.
> Observer 1 is approaching the emission source as 0.1c, Observer 2 is approaching
> at 0.2c, 3 at 0.3c, 4 at 0.4c and 5 at 0.5c.  In your argument (and in Prof. van
> Beizen's teachings, light will somehow slow down to c for all 5 observers.  How?
> By magic.  There is certainly no other explanation.

Oh, but there IS. You have apparently not read Einstein's paper on 
relativity in 1905 where the explanation is recounted. Look at the 
section on the addition of velocities.

Note that you ASSUME that velocities combine by simple sum, because your 
INTUITION tells you they should, whether or not that is actually 
supported by experiment, whether or not the simple sum is a handy 
approximation but not really the truth. THEN you assume that if the 
light was originally approaching the observer at c+0.1c, c+0.2c, c+0.3c, 
c+0.4c, etc., then it has to SLOW DOWN to c by some process.

But in fact, this is NOT the only explanation. As Einstein CLEARLY 
states in the 1905 paper which you did not read I guess, velocities do 
not combine by a simple sum. That is, they do not combine as v'=v+u. 
Instead, experiment shows they combine as
v' = (v+u)/(1 + vu/c^2).

Now, let's take the example of light in this expression, where v is c 
and u = 0.2c, say. Here u is the speed of the observer. Plug those 
values into this equation and tell me what v' is. Is it 1.2c? No, it is 
c. Just c. So light does not have to slow down at all from c to c. There 
is no mystical, magical slow down process.

You may ask, but WHY IS IT not v'=v+u. The answer is, because it isn't. 
It is v' = (v+u)/(1 + vu/c^2) and DIRECT MEASUREMENT shows it is.

>
>>
>> This is where your mind separates from that of a physicist. A physicist
>> will say, "If my understanding tells me that X will happen, and I run a
>> measurement and measurement shows that Y instead happens, then it is my
>> understanding that predicted X that is WRONG." You instead take the
>> approach, "Unless someone can explain to me how Y happens, then I refuse
>> to believe that Y actually happened. There must have been some kind of
>> mistake, because I can only see how X would happen."
>>
>> The lesson here is this. First, accept the primacy of experiment, even
>> if the result is astounding and (at the moment) unexplainable. Accept
>> that it is a True Fact. THEN, see if there is a way to explain how it is
>> possible that such a thing happens.
>>
>> Are you willing to start thinking this way?
>
> That is what I am doing.  You are the one who is assuming Prof. van Beizen
> is right without question and without looking for evidence.

You haven't found the evidence. what you are doing is taking your 
instincts and assumptions to produce counterarguments. But your 
instincts and assumptions are WRONG.

>
> Ed
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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                Re: Silver mirror Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-02-02 12:07 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 12:40 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-02 14:25 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-02-02 20:48 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-02 19:21 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-03 09:26 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 11:32 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-03 13:18 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 15:52 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-03 10:06 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-03 13:38 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 17:52 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-06 17:21 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 07:41 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 17:40 -0500
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 17:48 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 21:09 -0500
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 18:59 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-03 09:35 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 11:28 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Emmaline Coots <ealoa@loealoioa.los> - 2017-02-03 19:33 +0000
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-03 14:17 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-03 17:02 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-04 09:40 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-04 10:10 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-04 10:45 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-03 17:28 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 17:58 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror (was: Moving Clocks Run Slow...) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 18:32 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror (was: Moving Clocks Run Slow...) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-02-01 23:41 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror (was: Moving Clocks Run Slow...) Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-02 08:26 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror (was: Moving Clocks Run Slow...) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 09:12 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror (was: Moving Clocks Run Slow...) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-02-02 09:48 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror (was: Moving Clocks Run Slow...) Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-02 14:11 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 16:36 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-03 10:07 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 12:29 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-03 14:06 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 16:50 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-04 09:06 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 09:20 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-04 10:23 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 10:44 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-02-04 19:54 +0100
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-04 13:15 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 16:34 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-05 09:32 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-02-05 18:40 +0100
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-05 10:00 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 13:36 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-05 11:48 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 15:10 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-06 06:47 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-06 07:04 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 13:34 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-02-06 14:23 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 13:33 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 10:33 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 20:29 -0500
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 10:22 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 10:26 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 10:30 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror (was: Moving Clocks Run Slow...) "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-02 16:34 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror (was: Moving Clocks Run Slow...) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 19:13 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror (was: Moving Clocks Run Slow...) Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-03 09:42 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 11:54 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-03 13:22 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 15:55 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-04 07:56 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 08:13 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-04 10:16 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 10:36 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-04 13:06 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Python <python@python.invalid> - 2017-02-04 22:08 +0100
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 16:40 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-05 09:38 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 15:20 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-02-05 23:27 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-06 06:51 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 07:14 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 13:35 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 07:30 -0600
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-06 07:27 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-06 07:38 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 08:05 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-02-06 08:16 -0800
                Re: Silver mirror rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 09:21 -0800

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