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Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom

From David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom
Date 2016-07-27 17:13 +0200
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On 27/07/16 14:47, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 7/27/2016 2:52 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> On 27/07/16 04:26, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> On 7/26/2016 5:51 PM, jameskuyper@verizon.net wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 4:39:14 PM UTC-4, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>> On 7/26/2016 4:23 PM, jameskuyper@verizon.net wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 3:33:01 PM UTC-4, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>>>> At least you are admitting your example is absurd.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "At least"? No one has ever suggested otherwise. Have you been
>>>>>> paying any attention whatsoever to what other people are actually
>>>>>> saying?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure.  Unlike you, I can read.
>>>>
>>>> Then how did you arrive at the misconception that there was anyone here
>>>> disagreeing with you about the absurdity of "sizeof(short) >
>>>> sizeof(int)"? A
>>>> failure to properly read what we've written seems the only way to
>>>> justify that
>>>> misconception. The only thing anyone has ever been disagreeing with
>>>> you about
>>>> is whether it's permitted, not about whether it's absurd.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Because sizeof(short) cannot be larger than sizeof(int).
>>
>> If your latest claim (to be able to read) is correct, then the following
>> facts are true:
>>
>> (A) you think it is absurd that sizeof(short) could be greater than
>> sizeof(int) AND
> 
> That is true.

OK.

> 
>> (B) everybody agrees with you about the absurdity AND
> 
> That is true.

OK.

> 
>> (C) you mistakenly think that some people disagree about the absurdity AND
> 
> No mistake.  Just idiots think it's possible.  Something I find quite in
> abundance in some people in this newsgroup.

Basically, you are unable to distinguish between "absurd" and
"impossible".  Everyone agrees it would be absurd to have a C
implementation with sizeof(short) > sizeof(int).  But apart from you, no
one who has expressed an opinion thinks it is impossible (meaning, in
this context, that it would be against the C standards).

It would be /absurd/ for a strawberry farmer to sell kilogram boxes for
10 pence, and hectogram boxes for 10 pounds.  But it is certainly
/possible/.

Do you understand the difference?

> 
>> (D) your belief that sizeof(short) /cannot/ exceed sizeof(int) somehow
>> acts as a logical explanation of (C), such that you advance it as a
>> reason when questioned about how you arrived at (C).
>>
> 
> Nope.  The fact sizeof(short) cannot exceed sizeof(int) proves the
> idiocy of some people in this newsgroup.

Unfortunately for you, sizeof(short) /can/ exceed sizeof(int).  Nothing
in the C standards suggests otherwise.

> 
>> (A), (B), and (C) are all correct, but (D) is not.
>>
>> Conclusion: you can't read, after all.
>>
> 
> Conclusion: you are an idiot.
> 
>>
>>> They can be
>>> the same size, or int can be larger.
>>
>> They can have the same /range/, or int's /range/ can be larger. But
>> short can have more bits.
>>
> 
> Show me where that is stated in the standard.
> 
>>> Show me ONE compiler which has sizeof(short) > sizeof(int).
>>
>> Since the very idea is absurd, there is no reason to expect any C
>> compiler (or C implementation of any kind) that would incorporate this
>> design decision. Nobody has claimed that any such implementation exists.
>> The claim, which has been more than adequately justified, is that such
>> an implementation is /permitted/. It's an important distinction, but one
>> that you seem unable to grasp.
>>
> 
> So now you admit it is absurd.  That's a start, anyway.  And the
> standards committee doesn't bother itself with absurd concepts - unlike
> some people in this newsgroup.

Richard - along with everyone else - has been happy to call the idea
absurd right from the start.  The standards committee has not bothered
discussing such an absurd idea in the C standards - but that also
includes not bothering to explicitly disallow the possibility.  I don't
think anyone believes the C standards committee actively intended to
allow sizeof(short) to be greater than sizeof(int) - they simply did not
bother to disallow it, and therefore it is possible to have a conforming
C implementation with sizeof(short) > sizeof(int).

>>
>> It is not clear whether you have the ability to recognise what
>> constitutes a knowledgeable person. I don't make the claim for myself,
>> of course, but I would certainly recognise Keith and James as being
>> experts on the C language. Joe doesn't post here quite so often, but he
>> too is definitely on my list of smart guys.
>>
> 
> I sure do, and I know a lot of people who are much smarter than anyone
> in this newsgroup.  They don't try to propose absurd concepts, for
> instance.
> 
>>> The real experts don't try to read things into the standards like you
>>> guys do.
>>
>> Yes, they do, and James and Keith are cases in point. They /are/ real
>> experts.
>>
> 
> In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.  I'm talking about
> real experts - ones who have been instrumental in the development of the
> language over the years.

It is amazing how you have had such close regular contact with so many C
experts, and yet still have such a poor grasp of C, programming,
logical, and basic reading comprehension.  Didn't you learn /anything/
during all those claimed years as an IBM consultant?

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                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-24 16:32 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 17:27 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-24 22:58 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 18:19 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-24 23:44 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 20:57 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-25 02:11 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 22:12 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-07-24 17:28 -0600
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-25 00:37 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-24 16:59 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-07-24 19:32 -0600
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-25 02:35 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 22:14 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 22:13 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-07-24 21:54 -0600
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 08:08 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-25 13:09 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 08:22 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-25 13:50 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 11:48 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-25 17:32 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 12:41 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2016-07-25 16:35 +0000
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-25 17:50 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 14:57 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-24 19:01 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 22:14 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 20:58 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-25 02:14 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 22:16 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-07-24 19:35 -0600
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-24 09:38 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-07-24 12:58 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 17:28 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-24 23:01 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-24 15:13 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 18:20 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-24 23:46 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 20:59 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-25 02:21 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 22:17 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-25 03:34 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 08:09 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-25 13:21 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 11:50 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-25 17:38 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 14:59 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-25 05:28 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 11:52 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-25 08:59 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 12:29 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-25 09:39 -0700
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                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-25 03:31 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-24 21:20 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 08:10 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 08:12 -0400
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                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-07-28 11:15 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-28 15:18 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-07-30 11:59 -0700
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                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 22:21 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-24 19:38 -0700
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                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 08:15 -0400
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                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 11:59 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-25 10:31 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-25 18:57 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 15:04 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-24 19:14 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-07-24 22:49 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-24 21:12 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-07-24 21:58 -0600
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 08:19 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-07-25 08:34 -0600
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 12:01 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-25 08:32 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 12:03 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-25 00:24 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 21:01 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-25 17:08 +1200
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 08:19 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-25 17:07 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 12:36 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-25 10:34 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 15:05 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-25 12:18 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 16:05 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-26 01:08 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-26 12:29 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-07-26 09:41 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-26 10:50 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2016-07-26 18:09 +0000
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-26 14:43 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-26 20:25 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-26 15:33 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-26 21:05 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-26 16:37 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-26 13:23 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-26 16:39 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-07-26 14:07 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-26 14:51 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2016-07-26 15:17 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-26 23:26 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-26 20:46 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-27 07:52 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-27 08:47 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-27 17:13 +0200
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-27 12:03 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-27 09:57 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-27 16:18 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-27 07:58 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-27 12:05 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-27 17:18 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-27 16:20 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-28 07:14 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-28 08:59 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-28 13:37 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-27 09:42 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-27 16:20 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-26 15:31 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-26 23:32 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-27 07:58 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-27 08:52 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-27 11:21 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-27 13:34 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-27 16:31 +0200
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-27 16:20 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-27 23:36 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-28 14:51 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-28 09:26 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-07-28 10:54 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-27 03:12 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-26 23:35 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-26 20:41 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-07-27 15:04 +0000
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-27 16:05 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-27 08:17 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-27 09:21 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-27 09:37 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-27 10:11 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-27 10:21 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-27 11:34 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 14:46 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-27 22:29 +0200
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-27 20:32 +0200
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-28 00:22 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-28 13:01 +0200
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-28 04:46 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-07-26 12:57 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-07-26 16:00 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-24 00:08 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-07-27 14:58 +0000
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-27 09:14 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-07-27 11:55 -0700
            Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2016-07-20 19:47 +0000
              Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-20 13:09 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2016-07-20 20:49 +0000
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-20 14:35 -0700
      Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-20 09:01 -0700
    Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-20 08:59 -0700
  Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-07-20 09:24 -0700
    Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-20 11:28 -0700
      Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-07-21 18:38 -0700
  Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-20 22:10 +0200
  Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Anand Hariharan <mailto.anand.hariharan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 16:16 -0700
    Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-20 19:56 -0700
    Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Udyant Wig <udyant.wig@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 18:46 +0530
      Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2016-07-21 17:20 +0000
        Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Udyant Wig <udyant.wig@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 18:03 +0530
      Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-07-21 15:39 -0400
        Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Udyant Wig <udyant.wig@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 18:04 +0530
          Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-07-22 13:44 -0400
            Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Udyant Wig <udyant.wig@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 15:38 +0530
        Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Udyant Wig <udyant.wig@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 15:36 +0530
          Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-07-23 13:08 -0400
            Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-23 13:23 -0700
          Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-23 19:57 +0100
          Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-23 13:03 -0700
            Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-07-24 08:06 -0700
              Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-24 14:17 -0700
      Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-07-21 19:45 -0700
        Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-22 13:13 +0100
    Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-07-21 19:23 -0700
      Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-21 20:02 -0700
        Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-22 07:57 +0100
          Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-22 00:18 -0700
            Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-22 08:20 +0100
              Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-22 00:49 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-22 09:31 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-22 10:22 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-22 12:21 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-22 17:15 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-23 19:46 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-07-22 16:43 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-22 09:17 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-22 18:21 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-22 11:05 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-22 22:38 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-07-22 13:58 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-22 11:14 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-22 02:23 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-22 12:23 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-22 06:44 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-22 09:18 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-22 17:00 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-23 19:48 +0100
          Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-22 10:08 +0100
            Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-22 10:26 +0100
            Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-22 12:12 +0100
              Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-22 12:35 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-22 14:47 +0100
        Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-07-25 09:37 -0700
          Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-25 09:50 -0700
            Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-07-28 11:40 -0700

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