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Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom

From Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom
Date 2016-07-27 03:12 +0100
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Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> writes:

> On 7/26/2016 3:25 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> writes:
>> 
>>> On 7/25/2016 8:08 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>>> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/25/2016 12:07 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>>>>> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/24/2016 7:24 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>>>>>>> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> writes:
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>> And no, sizeof (short) > sizeof (int) is not permitted.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes it is because there is no limit placed on the number of padding bits
>>>>>>>> an integer type can have -- int might have none and short might have
>>>>>>>> dozens.  There's no reason I can see for an implementation to do this,
>>>>>>>> but it's not prohibited by the language.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is no allowance for padding BYTES.  Only BITS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If there are enough padding bits, sizeof (short) can be > sizeof (int).
>>>>>> The padding bits may or may not be consecutive, but they all contribute
>>>>>> to the overall size, just as the sign bit and value bits do.  This
>>>>>> layout, for a four (8-bit) byte short, appears to have nothing that
>>>>>> could be called a padding byte, but sizeof (short) must report 4:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   SPVPVPVP VPVPVPVP VPVPVPVP VPVPVPVP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't accept this possibility, please indicate the padding bytes.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you, too, are going into the realm of the totally absurd.
>>>>
>>>> Ah.  Were you only saying that having sizeof (short) > sizeof (int) is
>>>> totally absurd?  If so, we agree.  I was only disagreeing with the
>>>> incorrect statement that it is not permitted.
>>>
>>> Not at all.  I'm saying your example is totally absurd.
>> 
>> Yes it is, but you seem to be reluctant to say if it is permitted or not
>> (which, remember, is the only difference of fact as far as I can see).
>> Presumably you don't think it is permitted, but since you don't say why
>> I can't say much more than it is.  The sections the permit is are clear
>> and have been cited several times now so there's not much point in going
>> over that again.
>> 
>> If you think it is not permitted *because* it is absurd, that introduces
>> an unfortunate degree of subjectivity to the standard.  Someone else
>> might think that having sizeof (void *) > sizeof (int *) is absurd, or
>> any of a large number of other permitted peculiarities, and then the
>> discussion about what a C implementation may do will become far too
>> subjective for my taste (not to say very likely not at all what the
>> committee intended).
>> 
>> <snip> 
>
> At least you are admitting your example is absurd.

I've said that right from the first correction.  sizeof (short) > sizeof
(int) is permitted but is not in any way practical or even reasonable.

> And no, I will not
> say anything so absurd is permitted.

None the less it is permitted by the C standard.  Your say-so is not
required for a conforming implementation.

<snip>
> But then people with intelligence don't need to make up stupid examples
> like that to try to prove a point.

The example doesn't prove the point.  The point is proved by the text of
the language standard that I (and others) have cited.  The example was
chosen only to find out what you meant by "padding BYTES".  You once
claimed that this was why sizeof (short) > sizeof (int) was not
permitted, so an example without anything that I would call a padding
byte was called for to see what on earth it was you meant.  At least I
now know that "padding BYTES" are not the problem in this one case.

-- 
Ben.

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                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 12:03 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-25 00:24 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 21:01 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-25 17:08 +1200
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 08:19 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-25 17:07 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 12:36 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-25 10:34 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 15:05 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-25 12:18 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-25 16:05 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-26 01:08 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-26 12:29 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-07-26 09:41 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-26 10:50 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2016-07-26 18:09 +0000
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-26 14:43 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-26 20:25 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-26 15:33 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-26 21:05 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-26 16:37 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-26 13:23 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-26 16:39 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-07-26 14:07 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-26 14:51 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2016-07-26 15:17 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-26 23:26 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-26 20:46 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-27 07:52 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-27 08:47 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-27 17:13 +0200
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-27 12:03 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-27 09:57 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-27 16:18 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-27 07:58 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-27 12:05 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-27 17:18 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-27 16:20 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-28 07:14 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-28 08:59 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-28 13:37 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-27 09:42 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-27 16:20 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-26 15:31 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-26 23:32 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-27 07:58 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-27 08:52 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-27 11:21 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-27 13:34 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-27 16:31 +0200
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-27 16:20 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-27 23:36 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-28 14:51 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-28 09:26 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-07-28 10:54 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-27 03:12 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-26 23:35 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-26 20:41 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-07-27 15:04 +0000
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-27 16:05 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-27 08:17 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-27 09:21 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-27 09:37 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-27 10:11 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-27 10:21 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-27 11:34 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 14:46 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-27 22:29 +0200
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-27 20:32 +0200
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-28 00:22 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-28 13:01 +0200
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-28 04:46 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-07-26 12:57 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-07-26 16:00 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-24 00:08 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-07-27 14:58 +0000
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-27 09:14 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-07-27 11:55 -0700
            Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2016-07-20 19:47 +0000
              Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-20 13:09 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2016-07-20 20:49 +0000
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-20 14:35 -0700
      Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-20 09:01 -0700
    Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-20 08:59 -0700
  Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-07-20 09:24 -0700
    Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-20 11:28 -0700
      Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-07-21 18:38 -0700
  Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-20 22:10 +0200
  Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Anand Hariharan <mailto.anand.hariharan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 16:16 -0700
    Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-20 19:56 -0700
    Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Udyant Wig <udyant.wig@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 18:46 +0530
      Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2016-07-21 17:20 +0000
        Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Udyant Wig <udyant.wig@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 18:03 +0530
      Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-07-21 15:39 -0400
        Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Udyant Wig <udyant.wig@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 18:04 +0530
          Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-07-22 13:44 -0400
            Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Udyant Wig <udyant.wig@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 15:38 +0530
        Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Udyant Wig <udyant.wig@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 15:36 +0530
          Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-07-23 13:08 -0400
            Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-23 13:23 -0700
          Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-23 19:57 +0100
          Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-23 13:03 -0700
            Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-07-24 08:06 -0700
              Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-24 14:17 -0700
      Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-07-21 19:45 -0700
        Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-22 13:13 +0100
    Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-07-21 19:23 -0700
      Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-21 20:02 -0700
        Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-22 07:57 +0100
          Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-22 00:18 -0700
            Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-22 08:20 +0100
              Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-22 00:49 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-22 09:31 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-22 10:22 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-22 12:21 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-22 17:15 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-23 19:46 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-07-22 16:43 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-22 09:17 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-22 18:21 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-22 11:05 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-22 22:38 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-07-22 13:58 -0400
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-22 11:14 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-22 02:23 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-22 12:23 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-22 06:44 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-22 09:18 -0700
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-22 17:00 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-23 19:48 +0100
          Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-22 10:08 +0100
            Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-22 10:26 +0100
            Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-22 12:12 +0100
              Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-22 12:35 +0100
                Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-22 14:47 +0100
        Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-07-25 09:37 -0700
          Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-25 09:50 -0700
            Re: A glitch regarding the usual malloc() idiom Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-07-28 11:40 -0700

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