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Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction?

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction?
Date 2016-05-19 12:04 -0500
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On 5/19/2016 11:03 AM, Nicolaas Vroom wrote:
>>> This narrow time window indicates the inaccuracy in your measurement of
>>> individual photons
>>
>> The narrower the window, the more precise the time-of-flight measurement.
>
> snip
>
>>> Also here it is very difficult to link "creation" versus "destruction"
>>> of individual photons to measure its speed
>>
>> No, it's not, the narrowness of the time window assures that.
>
> snip
>
>>> The link:
>>> http://www.aps.anl.gov/About/APS_Overview/insertion_devices.html
>>> does not supply this information.
>>
>> Oh dear. I see you are trying to figure it out by looking at Overview
>> web pages. How about you look up the published papers about the design
>> of the APS.
>
> Why do n't you supply me with a link that gives the details?
>
>>> The link:
>>> http://www.aps.anl.gov/About/APS_Overview/linac.html
>>> tells you that c = 299792458 m/sec but not how this speed is measured.
>>> When I read the text, what they measure is the speed of electrons.
>>
>> That's because you're not reading about the part of the accelerator
>> where the photons are in flight. Good grief.
>
> Why do n't you supply me with a link that gives the details?

Because I cater to neither your laziness or your incompetence at doing 
library research. This is a basic skill that needs to be learned through 
practice.

>
>>> Physicists have an obligation to listen to any question, to ask questions
>>> when the question is not clear and to try to answer the question
>>> the best they can, with always doubt in their mind.
>>
>> Nicolaas, this is naive at best. Physicists have the obligation to
>> answer questions if they have taken the job of teaching a class and the
>> people asking the question have paid tuition to take that class.
>
> Sorry, I do not think that physicists only answer questions when they have
> a teaching job. It sounds narrow minded.

Well you tell me how well reality meets your expectations.

>
> Nicolaas Vroom
>


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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-21 21:53 +0000
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 18:59 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-19 23:44 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 09:26 -0500
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-21 08:17 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-05-21 15:49 -0700
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-22 08:28 -0500
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-22 10:07 -0400
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-22 08:15 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-22 16:02 -0400
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-23 08:28 -0400
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-23 09:03 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 09:26 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-23 10:37 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 12:58 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-23 21:22 -0400
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-23 01:25 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 11:48 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-23 10:32 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 12:57 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 11:30 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 11:26 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 14:44 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-21 00:55 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 10:50 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 07:48 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Nicolaas Vroom <nicolaas.vroom@pandora.be> - 2016-05-19 09:03 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 12:04 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 10:24 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 18:55 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-19 20:02 -0400
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 19:58 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-20 00:32 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 09:29 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-21 01:02 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-05-21 18:32 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-05-21 21:58 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 11:36 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-21 01:32 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 10:56 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-23 10:02 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 12:20 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-23 10:45 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 13:49 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 14:50 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 12:52 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 19:59 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-19 12:46 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 19:02 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Nicolaas Vroom <nicolaas.vroom@pandora.be> - 2016-05-20 04:00 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 11:54 -0500
              Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 18:57 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-16 19:53 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 07:14 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-17 06:50 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 09:22 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-18 07:24 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 09:57 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-17 14:31 +0000
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-18 06:56 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 10:02 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-18 15:30 +0000
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 10:00 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 09:19 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-18 07:08 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 10:07 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? xxein1@att.net - 2016-05-18 13:43 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 16:09 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 14:36 -0700
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              Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 15:37 -0700
              Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-05-17 12:53 +1000
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 18:09 -0700
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-19 04:25 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-05-19 21:55 +1000
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-19 05:11 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 08:53 -0500
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 15:05 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-19 14:12 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 16:15 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 12:47 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 15:09 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 15:31 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-05-20 20:16 +1000
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-05-20 13:15 +1000
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-20 00:08 -0400
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-05-20 15:33 +1000
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Nicolaas Vroom <nicolaas.vroom@pandora.be> - 2016-05-20 02:41 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-20 00:16 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-05-20 19:08 +1000
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-21 01:49 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-05-22 13:20 +1000
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-22 23:48 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 11:36 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 08:51 -0500
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