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Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction?

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction?
Date 2016-05-16 14:32 -0500
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On 5/16/2016 2:17 PM, jay moseley wrote:
> Odd
>>>> Of course in reality time dilation is not observed, as speed > is not known.
>
>> Out-and-out bullshit, Jay
>
> Temper temper. But you are wrong. Speed is not
> measured. Only assumed.

Not true, Jay. Your ignorance of experimental procedures is not an 
excuse to make up fictions instead.

In the Advanced Photon Laboratory, for example, photons are created when 
a charged particle beam passes a "wiggler" magnet, something that 
happens in a very well-defined, narrow time window and something that is 
actually recorded by monitors. Tangential to that location on the ring 
and downstream quite a ways are photon detectors, which fire when the 
photon or photons arrive, again in a very tight signal. Knowing the time 
and location of the point the photons where created, and the time and 
location of the point where they appear downstream, the time-of-flight 
and of course the speed of the photons is measured in about the most 
direct way possible. Notice the speed of the photons is not assumed, it 
is directly MEASURED.

Likewise in time dilation experiments, the speed of the passing objects 
is measured by time-of-flight between two recording locations along the 
path of motion. Thus the speed is MEASURED, not assumed. The time 
dilation is also MEASURED, not assumed. And so the correlation between 
the time dilation and the speed is a MEASURED comparison with theory.

Stop bullshitting about what is or isn't measured if you have absolutely 
no idea how the scientists go about their measurements. You have an 
obligation to LEARN about physics before you spout off lies about it. 
Physicists do not have an obligation to come to you and teach you, to 
correct your ignorance.

> Which is why you were unable
> to supply evidence to say it is measured and resorted to
> expletives as your last desperate alternative.
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-19 23:44 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 09:26 -0500
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-21 08:17 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-05-21 15:49 -0700
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-22 10:07 -0400
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-22 08:15 -0700
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-23 08:28 -0400
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-23 09:03 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 09:26 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-23 10:37 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 12:58 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-23 21:22 -0400
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-23 01:25 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 11:48 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-23 10:32 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 12:57 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 11:30 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 11:26 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 14:44 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-21 00:55 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 10:50 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 07:48 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Nicolaas Vroom <nicolaas.vroom@pandora.be> - 2016-05-19 09:03 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 12:04 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 10:24 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 18:55 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-19 20:02 -0400
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 19:58 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-20 00:32 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 09:29 -0500
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-05-21 18:32 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-05-21 21:58 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 11:36 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-21 01:32 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 10:56 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-23 10:02 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 12:20 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-23 10:45 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 13:49 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 14:50 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 12:52 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 19:59 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-19 12:46 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 19:02 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Nicolaas Vroom <nicolaas.vroom@pandora.be> - 2016-05-20 04:00 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 11:54 -0500
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 07:14 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-17 06:50 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 09:22 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-18 07:24 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 09:57 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-17 14:31 +0000
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-18 06:56 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 10:02 -0500
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 09:19 -0500
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 10:07 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? xxein1@att.net - 2016-05-18 13:43 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 16:09 -0500
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-05-19 21:55 +1000
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 08:53 -0500
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 15:05 -0500
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 16:15 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 12:47 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 15:09 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 15:31 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-05-20 20:16 +1000
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-20 00:08 -0400
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-05-20 15:33 +1000
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Nicolaas Vroom <nicolaas.vroom@pandora.be> - 2016-05-20 02:41 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-20 00:16 -0700
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-05-20 19:08 +1000
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-05-22 13:20 +1000
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                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 11:36 -0500
                Re: Does anyone really know the physical cause for time dilation and length contraction? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 08:51 -0500
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