Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > alt.atheism > #2070903

Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute

Show all headers | View raw

On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 00:07:40 +0000, Alex W. wrote:

> On 05/03/2016 23:46, Smiler wrote:
>> On Sat, 05 Mar 2016 14:04:11 +0000, Alex W. wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/03/2016 13:47, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
>>>> Alex W. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 05/03/2016 12:42, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
>>>>>> Alex W. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 04/03/2016 23:04, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mattb. wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/atheist-lawmakers-prayer-
sets-
>> off-arizona-house-dispute-37381282
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> An atheist member of the Arizona House denied the chance to
>>>>>>>>> deliver the chamber's opening prayer by majority Republican
>>>>>>>>> leaders last month got the opportunity Thursday, only to see
>>>>>>>>> leaders rule his prayer didn't pass muster and call up a
>>>>>>>>> Christian pastor.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The opening prayer by Democrat Juan Mendez included a call to
>>>>>>>>> work to help the state and its residents flourish and to "honor
>>>>>>>>> the Constitution and the secular equality it brings." But he
>>>>>>>>> didn't pray to any deity, which infuriated some Republicans who
>>>>>>>>> are Christians.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Accoring to the article, 'House Majority Leader Steve Montenegro
>>>>>>>> said Mendez's decision not to pray to God didn't meet House rules
>>>>>>>> he issued earlier this year for the opening prayer. Speaker David
>>>>>>>> Gowan then said "point of order well taken".'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If Mendez were Pastararian, he could've prayed to The FSM and
>>>>>>>> that would've satisfied the "House rules".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Imagine the uproar if he had addressed his prayer to Satan....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He'd now be the most infamous man in America. And Satan is referred
>>>>>> to in the Bible as "the god of this world", so the prayer might
>>>>>> still have satisfied the House rule.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> If he wanted to toss a hyperactive cat among the pigeons, he should
>>>>> table a motion asking for a comprehensive universal definition of
>>>>> "god"...
>>>>
>>>> They might've even killed him for that.
>>>>
>>>> What would have happened in the UK for a comparable situation?
>>>>
>>> Nothing at all.
>>>
>>> We don't do god in public life.
>>>
>>> If Tony Blair had done what GWB did before ordering the troops into
>>> Iraq -- praying and reading the bible to seek divine guidance -- he
>>> would not have been prime minister long enough to see us conquering
>>> Baghdad.
>>
>> TB may well have been -- praying and reading the bible to seek divine
>> guidance --, he is a committed Christian, but he didn't announce it to
>> the world for all to see his stupidity. _That_ is the difference
>> between the UK and the US.
>>
>>> We get much more exercised about bad manners.  The new leader of the
>>> Labour Party, Jeremy Corbyn, was supposed to meet the Queen and go
>>> down on one knee.  When he refused to do so, being a republican, it
>>> caused a major uproar.  His religion is never mentioned....
>>
>> I suspect that he's either an atheist or a very religious Christian,
>> like TB.
> 
> My reading is that he too caught up in his political ideology.

An apotheist?

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

Back to alt.atheism | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-05 09:08 +0000
  Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-05 12:42 +0000
    Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-05 13:03 +0000
      Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-05 13:47 +0000
        Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-05 14:04 +0000
          Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-05 14:31 +0000
            Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-05 19:14 +0000
              Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 12:18 -0700
                Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-05 19:28 +0000
              Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-05 21:08 +0000
                Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-05 23:28 +0000
                Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 16:53 -0700
                Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-06 12:41 +0000
              Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-05 23:46 +0000
            Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-05 23:53 +0000
          Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-05 23:46 +0000
            Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-06 00:07 +0000
              Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-06 19:56 +0000
        Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-05 19:15 +0000
      Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute Don Kresch <no@spam.org> - 2016-03-06 15:41 -0600
  Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute MattB <trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 10:05 -0800

csiph-web