Re: Accessing books and articles

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Accessing books and articles
Date	2015-08-14 20:05 -0500
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On 8/14/2015 6:04 PM, Timo wrote:
> On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 6:37:17 AM UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 8/14/2015 3:19 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>>>
>>> The authors receive compensation from their supporting institution, be
>>> it academic, industrial, or governmental.
>>
>> I completely disagree. Academic institutions do not pay any of their
>> staff for the time writing a book. In fact, professors who want to write
>> a book have to "buy their commitment" back from the university. Or they
>> have to do it in their spare time, so that it does not affect their
>> research, teaching, and administrative work.
>
> Here, a book is worth 5 peer-reviewed journal papers. Books are high-ranked publications
> in academia, if published by a "proper" publisher (put online for free, or published through
> a vanity press, aren't counted). One is even allowed to make money from the book.
>
> A book chapter = 1 paper.
>

John E. McMurry is on the chemistry faculty at Cornell.
His research is listed as "writing textbooks".
The last time I looked, he had several ongoing book projects, nicely 
interleaved in a 3-year revision cycle:
- A general chemistry book with Fay (now in 6th edition)
- An organic chemistry book (now in 8th edition)
- A nursing book in "GOB" (general, organic, and bio chem) with several 
others (now in 6th edition)

His web page says he's sold some 13 million copies of these books, and 
so he's probably earned in the vicinity of $20 million over the course 
of the last 20 years or so.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Thread

Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 09:06 -0500
  Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 09:16 -0500
  Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 16:33 +0200
    Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 10:06 -0500
      Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:14 +0200
      Re: Accessing books and articles HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 11:26 -0400
  Re: Accessing books and articles gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-14 13:41 -0500
  Re: Accessing books and articles benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:01 -0400
    Re: Accessing books and articles HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 08:06 -0400
  Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 19:13 +0000
    Re: Accessing books and articles kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-14 15:43 -0400
      Re: Accessing books and articles Eteocles Panagakos <eteoclespd@prospernetwork.org> - 2015-08-14 19:51 +0000
        Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:22 -0500
          Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 20:39 +0000
            Re: Accessing books and articles Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 13:48 -0700
              Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 21:34 +0000
                Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 16:42 -0500
                Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 22:03 +0000
                Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:25 -0500
                Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:37 -0500
                Re: Accessing books and articles HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 08:50 -0400
            Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 16:09 -0500
              Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 21:14 +0000
                Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 16:33 -0500
        Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 10:43 +0200
      Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:00 -0500
        Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 20:30 +0000
          Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:46 -0500
            Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-15 02:04 +0000
              Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 21:37 -0500
              Re: Accessing books and articles kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-14 22:40 -0400
                Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-15 03:15 +0000
                Re: Accessing books and articles kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-14 23:57 -0400
                Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 12:13 +0200
                Re: Accessing books and articles kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-15 10:38 -0400
                Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 16:59 +0200
                Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 12:05 +0200
              Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 11:51 +0200
          Re: Accessing books and articles kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-14 18:38 -0400
            Re: Accessing books and articles Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:53 -0700
            Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:11 -0500
      Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 20:05 +0000
        Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:10 -0500
    Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 14:51 -0500
      Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:07 -0500
      Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 20:19 +0000
        Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:37 -0500
          Re: Accessing books and articles Timo <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-08-14 16:04 -0700
            Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 20:05 -0500
              Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-15 03:23 +0000
                Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 10:10 +0200
                Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 07:44 -0500
              Re: Accessing books and articles Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-17 01:09 +0200
          Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 12:34 +0200
      Re: Accessing books and articles Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-17 01:05 +0200
    Re: Accessing books and articles Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:56 -0500
      Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-15 00:53 +0000
      Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 12:41 +0200
      Re: Accessing books and articles "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 13:10 -0700
        Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-16 21:12 +0000
          Re: Accessing books and articles "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 18:06 -0700
      Re: Should we jail librarians ? ! benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 03:08 -0400
        Re: Should we jail librarians ? ! noel <deletethis@invalin.lan> - 2015-08-18 08:40 +1000
          Re: Should we jail librarians ? ! benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 19:25 -0400
          Re: Should we jail librarians ? ! "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-18 08:48 -0400
            Re: Should we jail librarians ? ! noel <deletethis@invalin.lan> - 2015-08-19 10:04 +1000
              Re: Should we jail librarians ? ! §ñûhwØ£f <snuhwolf@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 19:11 -0500
              Re: Should we jail librarians ? ! "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-19 12:54 -0400
    Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 10:39 +0200
  Re: Accessing books and articles Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 12:04 +0200
    Re: Accessing books and articles Eteocles Panagakos <eteoclespd@prospernetwork.org> - 2015-08-16 11:44 +0000
      Re: Accessing books and articles Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 15:30 +0200
  Re: Accessing books and articles "T.M. Sommers" <tmsommers2@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 11:07 -0400
    Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 17:53 +0200
    Re: Accessing books and articles Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-17 00:44 +0200
  Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-16 18:27 +0000

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