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Re: Accessing books and articles

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject Re: Accessing books and articles
Followup-To sci.physics
Date 2015-08-17 01:05 +0200
Organization PointedEars Software (PES)
Message-ID <7124511.hdMgItz4Gm@PointedEars.de> (permalink)
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Odd Bodkin wrote:

> On 8/14/2015 2:13 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>> We have scientific publishing houses stubbornly clinging to their
>> easy source of income.  The world, however, is changing drastically.
>> It's time for these folks to seek their profit elsewhere (maybe
>> selling ice cream from a truck?).
> 
> Well, this rather implies that the publisher does nothing to add value,
> and only takes someone's hard work and makes money off it. And it also
> implies that the author of the information has contributed nothing of
> value and should not be compensated for the work in any way. After all,
> all the author has done is supply information -- high quality
> information -- and information is free.
> 
> So instead authors should invest years of their lives to write high
> quality information and disseminate it for free for the betterment of
> mankind. And if any author worries how he will feed his family while
> he's investing that effort, then he shouldn't be writing. Only
> independently wealthy people should take on the task of writing high
> quality information, so that they can disseminate it for free.

There is hope that some day people will be compensated for their 
contributions to society with something other than money, so that the notion 
of “wealthy people” becomes one of the past.  We can already see the 
beginnings of that as so-called “fringe benefits” are growing, and growing 
in importance for employees.  A big salary is no longer always the major 
argument for taking a job; a comfortable working environment and proper 
work-life balance are valued more. 

Publishing houses will have to change in order to keep up, and I know from 
personal experience that some are trying to change, some really desperately 
as they feel the grip of digital media on their neck.

But those are topics for other newsgroups.


PointedEars
-- 
“Science is empirical: knowing the answer means nothing;
 testing your knowledge means everything.”
   —Dr. Lawrence M. Krauss, theoretical physicist,
    in “A Universe from Nothing” (2009)

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Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 09:06 -0500
  Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 09:16 -0500
  Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 16:33 +0200
    Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 10:06 -0500
      Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:14 +0200
      Re: Accessing books and articles HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 11:26 -0400
  Re: Accessing books and articles gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-14 13:41 -0500
  Re: Accessing books and articles benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:01 -0400
    Re: Accessing books and articles HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 08:06 -0400
  Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 19:13 +0000
    Re: Accessing books and articles kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-14 15:43 -0400
      Re: Accessing books and articles Eteocles Panagakos <eteoclespd@prospernetwork.org> - 2015-08-14 19:51 +0000
        Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:22 -0500
          Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 20:39 +0000
            Re: Accessing books and articles Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 13:48 -0700
              Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 21:34 +0000
                Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 16:42 -0500
                Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 22:03 +0000
                Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:25 -0500
                Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:37 -0500
                Re: Accessing books and articles HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 08:50 -0400
            Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 16:09 -0500
              Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 21:14 +0000
                Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 16:33 -0500
        Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 10:43 +0200
      Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:00 -0500
        Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 20:30 +0000
          Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:46 -0500
            Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-15 02:04 +0000
              Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 21:37 -0500
              Re: Accessing books and articles kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-14 22:40 -0400
                Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-15 03:15 +0000
                Re: Accessing books and articles kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-14 23:57 -0400
                Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 12:13 +0200
                Re: Accessing books and articles kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-15 10:38 -0400
                Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 16:59 +0200
                Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 12:05 +0200
              Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 11:51 +0200
          Re: Accessing books and articles kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-14 18:38 -0400
            Re: Accessing books and articles Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:53 -0700
            Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:11 -0500
      Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 20:05 +0000
        Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:10 -0500
    Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 14:51 -0500
      Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:07 -0500
      Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 20:19 +0000
        Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:37 -0500
          Re: Accessing books and articles Timo <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-08-14 16:04 -0700
            Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 20:05 -0500
              Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-15 03:23 +0000
                Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 10:10 +0200
                Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 07:44 -0500
              Re: Accessing books and articles Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-17 01:09 +0200
          Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 12:34 +0200
      Re: Accessing books and articles Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-17 01:05 +0200
    Re: Accessing books and articles Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:56 -0500
      Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-15 00:53 +0000
      Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 12:41 +0200
      Re: Accessing books and articles "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 13:10 -0700
        Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-16 21:12 +0000
          Re: Accessing books and articles "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 18:06 -0700
      Re: Should we jail librarians ? ! benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 03:08 -0400
        Re: Should we jail librarians ? ! noel <deletethis@invalin.lan> - 2015-08-18 08:40 +1000
          Re: Should we jail librarians ? ! benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 19:25 -0400
          Re: Should we jail librarians ? ! "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-18 08:48 -0400
            Re: Should we jail librarians ? ! noel <deletethis@invalin.lan> - 2015-08-19 10:04 +1000
              Re: Should we jail librarians ? ! §ñûhwØ£f <snuhwolf@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 19:11 -0500
              Re: Should we jail librarians ? ! "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-19 12:54 -0400
    Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 10:39 +0200
  Re: Accessing books and articles Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 12:04 +0200
    Re: Accessing books and articles Eteocles Panagakos <eteoclespd@prospernetwork.org> - 2015-08-16 11:44 +0000
      Re: Accessing books and articles Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 15:30 +0200
  Re: Accessing books and articles "T.M. Sommers" <tmsommers2@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 11:07 -0400
    Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 17:53 +0200
    Re: Accessing books and articles Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-17 00:44 +0200
  Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-16 18:27 +0000

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