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Re: Accessing books and articles

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On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:51:53 -0500, Odd Bodkin wrote:

> 
> Well, this rather implies that the publisher does nothing to add value,
>

They don't.  Unless you consider a snappy, colorful cover sheet "added value."
 
> 
> and only takes someone's hard work and makes money off it.
>

That's their basic business model.

>
> And it also 
> implies that the author of the information has contributed nothing of 
> value and should not be compensated for the work in any way.
>

The authors receive compensation from their supporting institution, be
it academic, industrial, or governmental.

> 
> So instead authors should invest years of their lives to write high 
> quality information and disseminate it for free for the betterment of 
> mankind
>

That's the whole raison detre of academic research, and it has been that
way for hundreds of years.








>
> And if any author worries how he will feed his family while 
> he's investing that effort, then he shouldn't be writing. Only 
> independently wealthy people
>

Academic or governmental institutions provide independence to scientific
researchers.

But, yes, if an author cannot be satisfied with such institutional sponsorship
then he should not be writing.


> 
> And, by the way, the same authors won't have a publisher that is 
> providing illustrators or photo researchers, so they'll have to do their 
> own illustrations and take their own photos. Oh, but photos are 
> information and are free too, so professional photographers can hang it 
> up -- no point in that job.
> 

Ever hear of software?  A schoolboy can now produce better graphics than
those homosexuals artists employs by publishing houses


>
> And while we're at it, medical diagnosis and treatment plans are 
> information and should be free. Doctors should freely tell their 
> patients what's wrong with them and what they need to do to correct it, 
> all for free,
>

This is a whimsical derivation and has no substance.


> 
> You go first. Your services for free, right?
>

When I was formerly supported by an institution I had made information
available for free.  As stated above, this has been the practice since
Plato's Academy.

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Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 09:06 -0500
  Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 09:16 -0500
  Re: Accessing books and articles Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-14 07:23 -0700
    Re: Accessing books and articles "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-17 20:10 +0200
  Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 16:33 +0200
    Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 10:06 -0500
      Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:14 +0200
      Re: Accessing books and articles HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 11:26 -0400
  Re: Accessing books and articles gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-14 13:41 -0500
  Re: Accessing books and articles benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:01 -0400
    Re: Accessing books and articles John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-14 17:25 -0700
    Re: Accessing books and articles HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 08:06 -0400
  Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 19:13 +0000
    Re: Accessing books and articles kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-14 15:43 -0400
      Re: Accessing books and articles Eteocles Panagakos <eteoclespd@prospernetwork.org> - 2015-08-14 19:51 +0000
        Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:22 -0500
          Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 20:39 +0000
            Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 16:09 -0500
              Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 21:14 +0000
                Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 16:33 -0500
        Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 10:43 +0200
      Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:00 -0500
        Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 20:30 +0000
          Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:46 -0500
            Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-15 02:04 +0000
              Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 21:37 -0500
              Re: Accessing books and articles kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-14 22:40 -0400
                Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-15 03:15 +0000
                Re: Accessing books and articles kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-14 23:57 -0400
                Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 12:13 +0200
                Re: Accessing books and articles kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-15 10:38 -0400
                Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 16:59 +0200
                Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 12:05 +0200
                Re: Accessing books and articles John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-15 17:49 -0700
              Re: Accessing books and articles John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-14 20:05 -0700
              Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 11:51 +0200
          Re: Accessing books and articles kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-14 18:38 -0400
            Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:11 -0500
      Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 20:05 +0000
        Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:10 -0500
    Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 14:51 -0500
      Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:07 -0500
      Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-14 20:19 +0000
        Re: Accessing books and articles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 15:37 -0500
          Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 12:34 +0200
      Re: Accessing books and articles Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-17 01:05 +0200
    Re: Accessing books and articles Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:56 -0500
      Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-15 00:53 +0000
        Re: Accessing books and articles John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-14 18:43 -0700
      Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 12:41 +0200
      Re: Should we jail librarians ? ! benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 03:08 -0400
        Re: Should we jail librarians ? ! noel <deletethis@invalin.lan> - 2015-08-18 08:40 +1000
          Re: Should we jail librarians ? ! benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 19:25 -0400
          Re: Should we jail librarians ? ! "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-18 08:48 -0400
            Re: Should we jail librarians ? ! noel <deletethis@invalin.lan> - 2015-08-19 10:04 +1000
              Re: Should we jail librarians ? ! "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-19 12:54 -0400
    Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 10:39 +0200
  Re: Accessing books and articles Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 08:20 -0700
    Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:19 +0200
      Re: Accessing books and articles kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-15 12:37 -0400
        Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:45 +0200
  Re: Accessing books and articles Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 12:04 +0200
    Re: Accessing books and articles Eteocles Panagakos <eteoclespd@prospernetwork.org> - 2015-08-16 11:44 +0000
      Re: Accessing books and articles Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-16 15:30 +0200
  Re: Accessing books and articles "T.M. Sommers" <tmsommers2@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 11:07 -0400
    Re: Accessing books and articles Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 17:53 +0200
    Re: Accessing books and articles Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-17 00:44 +0200
  Re: Accessing books and articles Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-16 18:27 +0000

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