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Re: Why I dislike systemd

From Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: Why I dislike systemd
Date 2015-06-15 21:02 -0400
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Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> writes:

> Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>:
>
>> Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> writes:
>>> Could the sysadmin replace the distro-provided systemd files? Should
>>> they? Should the developer be prepared for the sysadmin to override the
>>> developer's settings? These issues should be spelled out in the
>>> developer's guide as well as the sysadmin's guide.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> So, what are the cases where .service files need to be changed?
>
> Don't know. Where is it explained?

Where is what explained?

> As it stands, I have had to make the product treat .service files
> analogously to configuration files. Product updates must honor possible
> manual changes made by the sysadmin.
>
> The answer could probably be gleaned from RedHat's source RPMs. The
> question is if the .service files are tagged with %config. If the
> sysadmin edits a .service file, can it jeopardize a distro upgrade?

If you change a distro file you might get an .rpmnew file
instead of an updated config file.

I have 3 on my system right now.

I've never had one cause a problem,


-- 
Dan Espen

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Why I dislike systemd Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-06-15 10:04 +0000
  Re: Why I dislike systemd Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-06-15 11:17 +0000
  Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-15 09:46 -0400
    Re: Why I dislike systemd RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-06-15 17:24 +0300
      Re: Why I dislike systemd Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-15 18:45 +0300
        Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-15 12:33 -0400
          Re: Why I dislike systemd Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-15 21:16 +0300
            Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-15 15:19 -0400
              Re: Why I dislike systemd Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-15 23:11 +0300
                Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-15 16:53 -0400
                Re: Why I dislike systemd Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-16 00:14 +0300
                Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-15 21:02 -0400
                Re: Why I dislike systemd Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-16 07:48 +0300
                Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-16 11:08 -0400
        Re: Why I dislike systemd Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-06-15 19:20 +0100
        Re: Why I dislike systemd Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-06-15 16:19 -0300
      Re: Why I dislike systemd Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-06-15 20:13 +0100
    Re: Why I dislike systemd Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-06-15 15:50 +0000
      Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-15 12:14 -0400
      Re: Why I dislike systemd Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-06-15 17:18 +0100

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