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Re: Why I dislike systemd

From Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: Why I dislike systemd
Date 2015-06-16 00:14 +0300
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Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>:

> Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> writes:
>> Could the sysadmin replace the distro-provided systemd files? Should
>> they? Should the developer be prepared for the sysadmin to override the
>> developer's settings? These issues should be spelled out in the
>> developer's guide as well as the sysadmin's guide.
>
> [...]
>
> So, what are the cases where .service files need to be changed?

Don't know. Where is it explained?

As it stands, I have had to make the product treat .service files
analogously to configuration files. Product updates must honor possible
manual changes made by the sysadmin.

The answer could probably be gleaned from RedHat's source RPMs. The
question is if the .service files are tagged with %config. If the
sysadmin edits a .service file, can it jeopardize a distro upgrade?


Marko

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Why I dislike systemd Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-06-15 10:04 +0000
  Re: Why I dislike systemd Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-06-15 11:17 +0000
  Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-15 09:46 -0400
    Re: Why I dislike systemd RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-06-15 17:24 +0300
      Re: Why I dislike systemd Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-15 18:45 +0300
        Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-15 12:33 -0400
          Re: Why I dislike systemd Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-15 21:16 +0300
            Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-15 15:19 -0400
              Re: Why I dislike systemd Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-15 23:11 +0300
                Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-15 16:53 -0400
                Re: Why I dislike systemd Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-16 00:14 +0300
                Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-15 21:02 -0400
                Re: Why I dislike systemd Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-16 07:48 +0300
                Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-16 11:08 -0400
        Re: Why I dislike systemd Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-06-15 19:20 +0100
        Re: Why I dislike systemd Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-06-15 16:19 -0300
      Re: Why I dislike systemd Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-06-15 20:13 +0100
    Re: Why I dislike systemd Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-06-15 15:50 +0000
      Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-15 12:14 -0400
      Re: Why I dislike systemd Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-06-15 17:18 +0100

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