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Etresoft said ......

From David <David.is@home.today>
Newsgroups uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject Etresoft said ......
Date 2025-03-14 09:45 +0000
Message-ID <m3ic5tFblitU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)

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*I asked ChatGPT* ......

Can you explain what "etresoft" meant?

etresoft
User level: Level 9
53,118 points

Posted on Mar 12, 2025 5:07 AM

     kpavel wrote:
If this update is critical for security

*It isn't*.

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Here's the thread:- 
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/256004656?sortBy=rank

==

ChatGPT said ....

"Etresoft" is the developer name used by John Daniel, who created 
EtreCheck — a macOS diagnostic tool designed to identify common issues 
on Macs. On the Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums, "etresoft" was 
also John Daniel's username. He was a frequent and high-level 
contributor, often responding to users' technical questions about macOS.

His posts sometimes included recommendations to use EtreCheck to 
generate system reports. However, his presence on ASC became 
controversial due to concerns about how his posts were handled by 
moderators, and there were reports of his content being manipulated.

Let me know if you want to dive deeper into any part of this!

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I asked - "Yes - why would he say that an update is NOT critical for 
security?"

==

That’s a great question. When "etresoft" (John Daniel) said an update 
wasn’t critical for security, it could have been for several reasons:

1. **Personal Opinion or Interpretation**: He might have believed that 
the specific update didn't address any major vulnerabilities, so it 
wasn’t urgent for users to install it right away. Sometimes updates 
focus more on bug fixes or feature improvements than on patching 
security holes.

2. **Lack of Immediate Threat**: If the update fixed a vulnerability 
that wasn’t actively being exploited, he might have downplayed its 
urgency. Security updates can patch theoretical risks, but not all of 
them address active attacks.

3. **Misinformation or Bias**: Given the controversies surrounding John 
Daniel, it’s possible he had his own agenda — perhaps trying to appear 
authoritative or dismiss concerns without fully explaining the risks.

4. **Apple's Lack of Transparency**: Sometimes, Apple releases updates 
without clearly stating whether they fix security issues. If etresoft 
didn’t have detailed information about what the update fixed, he might 
have guessed it wasn’t critical.

5. **Encouraging Users to Rely on EtreCheck**: There’s a chance he 
wanted users to depend more on his tool for diagnosing problems rather 
than focusing on Apple’s updates. This could subtly push people towards 
his software.

It’s a bit suspicious to flat-out dismiss a security update without 
explanation. Would you like me to check what that particular update was 
about, or do you want to dig into his pattern of responses on ASC?

==

I said - "yes!".

==

On March 11, 2025, Apple released iOS 18.3.2 and iPadOS 18.3.2 to 
address a critical WebKit vulnerability (CVE-2025-24201) that was 
actively exploited in sophisticated attacks. This flaw allowed malicious 
web content to bypass system security protections, posing a significant 
risk to users. citeturn0search3

Security experts emphasized the urgency of installing this update to 
protect personal data and maintain device security. citeturn0search6

Given the severity of the vulnerability, it's crucial to apply such 
security updates promptly to safeguard against potential threats.

==

Link to original conversation:- 
https://chatgpt.com/share/67d3f9a7-8fec-8013-a89f-b50bfb16a197

If there is a simple explanation for the misinformation provided by 
"etresoft", please let me know.

-- 
Kind regards,
David

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Etresoft said ...... David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-14 09:45 +0000
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