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Etresoft said ...... David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-14 09:45 +0000
Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-14 20:31 +0000
Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-14 13:34 -0700
Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-03-14 21:28 +0000
Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> - 2025-03-14 22:24 +0000
Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-14 15:37 -0700
Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-15 08:55 +0000
Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-14 15:36 -0700
Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-14 23:04 +0000
Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-03-15 00:45 +0000
Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-15 08:42 +0000
Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-03-16 00:10 +0000
Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> - 2025-03-16 12:09 +0000
Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) David <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-04-08 09:19 +0100
Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-17 23:43 +0000
Posting name is different! Who changed that? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-19 09:20 +0000
| From | David <David.is@home.today> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-03-14 09:45 +0000 |
| Subject | Etresoft said ...... |
| Message-ID | <m3ic5tFblitU1@mid.individual.net> |
*I asked ChatGPT* ......
Can you explain what "etresoft" meant?
etresoft
User level: Level 9
53,118 points
Posted on Mar 12, 2025 5:07 AM
kpavel wrote:
If this update is critical for security
*It isn't*.
==
Here's the thread:-
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/256004656?sortBy=rank
==
ChatGPT said ....
"Etresoft" is the developer name used by John Daniel, who created
EtreCheck — a macOS diagnostic tool designed to identify common issues
on Macs. On the Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums, "etresoft" was
also John Daniel's username. He was a frequent and high-level
contributor, often responding to users' technical questions about macOS.
His posts sometimes included recommendations to use EtreCheck to
generate system reports. However, his presence on ASC became
controversial due to concerns about how his posts were handled by
moderators, and there were reports of his content being manipulated.
Let me know if you want to dive deeper into any part of this!
==
I asked - "Yes - why would he say that an update is NOT critical for
security?"
==
That’s a great question. When "etresoft" (John Daniel) said an update
wasn’t critical for security, it could have been for several reasons:
1. **Personal Opinion or Interpretation**: He might have believed that
the specific update didn't address any major vulnerabilities, so it
wasn’t urgent for users to install it right away. Sometimes updates
focus more on bug fixes or feature improvements than on patching
security holes.
2. **Lack of Immediate Threat**: If the update fixed a vulnerability
that wasn’t actively being exploited, he might have downplayed its
urgency. Security updates can patch theoretical risks, but not all of
them address active attacks.
3. **Misinformation or Bias**: Given the controversies surrounding John
Daniel, it’s possible he had his own agenda — perhaps trying to appear
authoritative or dismiss concerns without fully explaining the risks.
4. **Apple's Lack of Transparency**: Sometimes, Apple releases updates
without clearly stating whether they fix security issues. If etresoft
didn’t have detailed information about what the update fixed, he might
have guessed it wasn’t critical.
5. **Encouraging Users to Rely on EtreCheck**: There’s a chance he
wanted users to depend more on his tool for diagnosing problems rather
than focusing on Apple’s updates. This could subtly push people towards
his software.
It’s a bit suspicious to flat-out dismiss a security update without
explanation. Would you like me to check what that particular update was
about, or do you want to dig into his pattern of responses on ASC?
==
I said - "yes!".
==
On March 11, 2025, Apple released iOS 18.3.2 and iPadOS 18.3.2 to
address a critical WebKit vulnerability (CVE-2025-24201) that was
actively exploited in sophisticated attacks. This flaw allowed malicious
web content to bypass system security protections, posing a significant
risk to users. citeturn0search3
Security experts emphasized the urgency of installing this update to
protect personal data and maintain device security. citeturn0search6
Given the severity of the vulnerability, it's crucial to apply such
security updates promptly to safeguard against potential threats.
==
Link to original conversation:-
https://chatgpt.com/share/67d3f9a7-8fec-8013-a89f-b50bfb16a197
If there is a simple explanation for the misinformation provided by
"etresoft", please let me know.
--
Kind regards,
David
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| From | David <David.is@home.today> |
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| Date | 2025-03-14 20:31 +0000 |
| Subject | Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) |
| Message-ID | <m3ji0mFh612U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180669 |
On 14/03/2025 09:45, David wrote: > *I asked ChatGPT* ...... > > Can you explain what "etresoft" meant? > > etresoft > User level: Level 9 > 53,118 points > > Posted on Mar 12, 2025 5:07 AM > > kpavel wrote: > If this update is critical for security > > *It isn't*. > > == > > Here's the thread:- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/256004656? > sortBy=rank > > == > > ChatGPT said .... > > "Etresoft" is the developer name used by John Daniel, who created > EtreCheck — a macOS diagnostic tool designed to identify common issues > on Macs. On the Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums, "etresoft" was > also John Daniel's username. He was a frequent and high-level > contributor, often responding to users' technical questions about macOS. > > His posts sometimes included recommendations to use EtreCheck to > generate system reports. However, his presence on ASC became > controversial due to concerns about how his posts were handled by > moderators, and there were reports of his content being manipulated. > > Let me know if you want to dive deeper into any part of this! > > == > > I asked - "Yes - why would he say that an update is NOT critical for > security?" > > == > > That’s a great question. When "etresoft" (John Daniel) said an update > wasn’t critical for security, it could have been for several reasons: > > 1. **Personal Opinion or Interpretation**: He might have believed that > the specific update didn't address any major vulnerabilities, so it > wasn’t urgent for users to install it right away. Sometimes updates > focus more on bug fixes or feature improvements than on patching > security holes. > > 2. **Lack of Immediate Threat**: If the update fixed a vulnerability > that wasn’t actively being exploited, he might have downplayed its > urgency. Security updates can patch theoretical risks, but not all of > them address active attacks. > > 3. **Misinformation or Bias**: Given the controversies surrounding John > Daniel, it’s possible he had his own agenda — perhaps trying to appear > authoritative or dismiss concerns without fully explaining the risks. > > 4. **Apple's Lack of Transparency**: Sometimes, Apple releases updates > without clearly stating whether they fix security issues. If etresoft > didn’t have detailed information about what the update fixed, he might > have guessed it wasn’t critical. > > 5. **Encouraging Users to Rely on EtreCheck**: There’s a chance he > wanted users to depend more on his tool for diagnosing problems rather > than focusing on Apple’s updates. This could subtly push people towards > his software. > > It’s a bit suspicious to flat-out dismiss a security update without > explanation. Would you like me to check what that particular update was > about, or do you want to dig into his pattern of responses on ASC? > > == > > I said - "yes!". > > == > > On March 11, 2025, Apple released iOS 18.3.2 and iPadOS 18.3.2 to > address a critical WebKit vulnerability (CVE-2025-24201) that was > actively exploited in sophisticated attacks. This flaw allowed malicious > web content to bypass system security protections, posing a significant > risk to users. citeturn0search3 > > Security experts emphasized the urgency of installing this update to > protect personal data and maintain device security. citeturn0search6 > > Given the severity of the vulnerability, it's crucial to apply such > security updates promptly to safeguard against potential threats. > > == > > Link to original conversation:- https://chatgpt.com/ > share/67d3f9a7-8fec-8013-a89f-b50bfb16a197 > > If there is a simple explanation for the misinformation provided by > "etresoft", please let me know. I'd really like to know WHY the thread was removed. Any ideas? ....... *anyone*? -- David
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| From | % <pursent100@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-14 13:34 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) |
| Message-ID | <97ednVidXq5ZD0n6nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #180674 |
David wrote: > On 14/03/2025 09:45, David wrote: >> *I asked ChatGPT* ...... >> >> Can you explain what "etresoft" meant? >> >> etresoft >> User level: Level 9 >> 53,118 points >> >> Posted on Mar 12, 2025 5:07 AM >> >> kpavel wrote: >> If this update is critical for security >> >> *It isn't*. >> >> == >> >> Here's the thread:- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/256004656? >> sortBy=rank >> >> == >> >> ChatGPT said .... >> >> "Etresoft" is the developer name used by John Daniel, who created >> EtreCheck — a macOS diagnostic tool designed to identify common issues >> on Macs. On the Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums, "etresoft" was >> also John Daniel's username. He was a frequent and high-level >> contributor, often responding to users' technical questions about macOS. >> >> His posts sometimes included recommendations to use EtreCheck to >> generate system reports. However, his presence on ASC became >> controversial due to concerns about how his posts were handled by >> moderators, and there were reports of his content being manipulated. >> >> Let me know if you want to dive deeper into any part of this! >> >> == >> >> I asked - "Yes - why would he say that an update is NOT critical for >> security?" >> >> == >> >> That’s a great question. When "etresoft" (John Daniel) said an update >> wasn’t critical for security, it could have been for several reasons: >> >> 1. **Personal Opinion or Interpretation**: He might have believed that >> the specific update didn't address any major vulnerabilities, so it >> wasn’t urgent for users to install it right away. Sometimes updates >> focus more on bug fixes or feature improvements than on patching >> security holes. >> >> 2. **Lack of Immediate Threat**: If the update fixed a vulnerability >> that wasn’t actively being exploited, he might have downplayed its >> urgency. Security updates can patch theoretical risks, but not all of >> them address active attacks. >> >> 3. **Misinformation or Bias**: Given the controversies surrounding >> John Daniel, it’s possible he had his own agenda — perhaps trying to >> appear authoritative or dismiss concerns without fully explaining the >> risks. >> >> 4. **Apple's Lack of Transparency**: Sometimes, Apple releases updates >> without clearly stating whether they fix security issues. If etresoft >> didn’t have detailed information about what the update fixed, he might >> have guessed it wasn’t critical. >> >> 5. **Encouraging Users to Rely on EtreCheck**: There’s a chance he >> wanted users to depend more on his tool for diagnosing problems rather >> than focusing on Apple’s updates. This could subtly push people >> towards his software. >> >> It’s a bit suspicious to flat-out dismiss a security update without >> explanation. Would you like me to check what that particular update >> was about, or do you want to dig into his pattern of responses on ASC? >> >> == >> >> I said - "yes!". >> >> == >> >> On March 11, 2025, Apple released iOS 18.3.2 and iPadOS 18.3.2 to >> address a critical WebKit vulnerability (CVE-2025-24201) that was >> actively exploited in sophisticated attacks. This flaw allowed >> malicious web content to bypass system security protections, posing a >> significant risk to users. citeturn0search3 >> >> Security experts emphasized the urgency of installing this update to >> protect personal data and maintain device security. citeturn0search6 >> >> Given the severity of the vulnerability, it's crucial to apply such >> security updates promptly to safeguard against potential threats. >> >> == >> >> Link to original conversation:- https://chatgpt.com/ >> share/67d3f9a7-8fec-8013-a89f-b50bfb16a197 >> >> If there is a simple explanation for the misinformation provided by >> "etresoft", please let me know. > > > I'd really like to know WHY the thread was removed. > > Any ideas? ....... *anyone*? > because i don't like some things you say
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| From | Tyrone <none@none.none> |
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| Date | 2025-03-14 21:28 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) |
| Message-ID | <_ducnSarR6TlAkn6nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #180674 |
On Mar 14, 2025 at 4:31:18 PM EDT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote: > I'd really like to know WHY the thread was removed. > > Any ideas? ....... *anyone*? You STILL can't do the math on this? Why are you always surprised that threads YOU start - or even just participate in - get removed? Let me explain it to you AGAIN. It is because you are an irritating asshole AND they are hoping to discourage you from ever posting at ASC again. See how easy that is? Now wait a few months and then post this same ridiculous question again. Like you always do.
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| From | T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-03-14 22:24 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) |
| Message-ID | <vr2abg$26an7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #180676 |
On 14/03/2025 21:28, Tyrone wrote: > On Mar 14, 2025 at 4:31:18 PM EDT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote: > >> I'd really like to know WHY the thread was removed. >> >> Any ideas? ....... *anyone*? > > You STILL can't do the math on this? He cam, he's admitted he is a troll. He's got nothing else in his sad life. > Why are you always surprised that > threads YOU start - or even just participate in - get removed? He isn't. He's trolling there and trolling here and some continue to give him the oxygen he craves. > > Let me explain it to you AGAIN. You are wasting your time. > It is because you are an irritating asshole Good description but that's a badge of honour to sickos like him. > AND they are hoping to discourage you from ever posting at ASC again. They know they won't, they will keep deleting and banning him though. > > See how easy that is? He won't because he doesn't want to. > > Now wait a few months *Months*!!!? > and then post this same ridiculous question again. Like > you always do. Yup, because he can then post about it here and drag the hard of thinking down the hole with him. ;-( Let's face it, how many other people would re-post about being considered a stain on the landscape as he does and so freely? I know he is getting old (or the persona he has taken over has, that died 10 years ago ...) and is pretty thick but there is no way he is *that* stupid. Cheers, T i m
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| From | % <pursent100@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-14 15:37 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) |
| Message-ID | <5aKdne7bSPg3Mkn6nZ2dnZfqn_sAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #180677 |
T i m wrote: > On 14/03/2025 21:28, Tyrone wrote: >> On Mar 14, 2025 at 4:31:18 PM EDT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote: >> >>> I'd really like to know WHY the thread was removed. >>> >>> Any ideas? ....... *anyone*? >> >> You STILL can't do the math on this? > > He cam, he's admitted he is a troll. He's got nothing else in his sad life. > >> Why are you always surprised that >> threads YOU start - or even just participate in - get removed? > > He isn't. He's trolling there and trolling here and some continue to > give him the oxygen he craves. >> >> Let me explain it to you AGAIN. > > You are wasting your time. > >> It is because you are an irritating asshole > > Good description but that's a badge of honour to sickos like him. > >> AND they are hoping to discourage you from ever posting at ASC again. > > They know they won't, they will keep deleting and banning him though. > >> >> See how easy that is? > > He won't because he doesn't want to. >> >> Now wait a few months > > *Months*!!!? > >> and then post this same ridiculous question again. Like >> you always do. > > Yup, because he can then post about it here and drag the hard of > thinking down the hole with him. ;-( > > Let's face it, how many other people would re-post about being > considered a stain on the landscape as he does and so freely? > > I know he is getting old (or the persona he has taken over has, that > died 10 years ago ...) and is pretty thick but there is no way he is > *that* stupid. > > Cheers, T i m > > yes there is
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| From | David <David.is@home.today> |
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| Date | 2025-03-15 08:55 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) |
| Message-ID | <m3ktkpFnfn4U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180677 |
On 14/03/2025 22:24, T i m wrote: > I know he is getting old (or the persona he has taken over has, that > died 10 years ago ...) and is pretty thick but there is no way he is > *that* stupid. I'm not at all stupid! Age UK -----> https://www.ageuk.org.uk/devon/our-services/ Pavel works for them and asked HIS question on the ASC forum. HTH -- David
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| From | % <pursent100@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-14 15:36 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) |
| Message-ID | <5aKdne_bSPjMMkn6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #180676 |
Tyrone wrote: > On Mar 14, 2025 at 4:31:18 PM EDT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote: > >> I'd really like to know WHY the thread was removed. >> >> Any ideas? ....... *anyone*? > > You STILL can't do the math on this? Why are you always surprised that > threads YOU start - or even just participate in - get removed? > > Let me explain it to you AGAIN. It is because you are an irritating asshole > AND they are hoping to discourage you from ever posting at ASC again. > > See how easy that is? > > Now wait a few months and then post this same ridiculous question again. Like > you always do. > LOL , i second the emotion , he should've been turned off long ago
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| From | David <David.is@home.today> |
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| Date | 2025-03-14 23:04 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) |
| Message-ID | <m3jr0gFil6aU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180676 |
On 14/03/2025 21:28, Tyrone wrote: > On Mar 14, 2025 at 4:31:18 PM EDT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote: > >> I'd really like to know WHY the thread was removed. >> >> Any ideas? ....... *anyone*? > > You STILL can't do the math on this? Why are you always surprised that > threads YOU start - or even just participate in - get removed? *I neither started the thread nor participated in it*. -- David
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| From | Tyrone <none@none.none> |
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| Date | 2025-03-15 00:45 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) |
| Message-ID | <56-cnbA1JJ8GUEn6nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #180680 |
On Mar 14, 2025 at 7:04:48 PM EDT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote: > On 14/03/2025 21:28, Tyrone wrote: >> On Mar 14, 2025 at 4:31:18 PM EDT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote: >> >>> I'd really like to know WHY the thread was removed. >>> >>> Any ideas? ....... *anyone*? >> >> You STILL can't do the math on this? Why are you always surprised that >> threads YOU start - or even just participate in - get removed? > > *I neither started the thread nor participated in it*. Uh huh. Sure. But if that is true, then why do you even care? ASC is a private forum. The moderators can do whatever they want to do. They don't need your permission, nor do they owe you an explanation.
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| From | David <David.is@home.today> |
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| Date | 2025-03-15 08:42 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) |
| Message-ID | <m3ksr2Fnb08U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180681 |
On 15/03/2025 00:45, Tyrone wrote:
> On Mar 14, 2025 at 7:04:48 PM EDT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:
>
>> On 14/03/2025 21:28, Tyrone wrote:
>>> On Mar 14, 2025 at 4:31:18 PM EDT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd really like to know WHY the thread was removed.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas? ....... *anyone*?
>>>
>>> You STILL can't do the math on this? Why are you always surprised that
>>> threads YOU start - or even just participate in - get removed?
>>
>> *I neither started the thread nor participated in it*.
>
> Uh huh. Sure.
100% true.
> But if that is true, then why do you even care?
I've never been worried about privacy. It is about *security* that I
have my concerns.
In case you've not looked, this is what John Daniel ('etresoft') has
recently posted in that thread:-
etresoft
User level: Level 9
53,112 points
Mar 13, 2025 12:47 PM in response to g_wolfman
What do any of us know really? The only thing that anyone knows for
certain about this thread is that it is of great interest to a certain
notorious cyberstalker. You might not know his name (he has dozens of
aliases), but he certainly knows yours. Stalker claims that he isn't
"kpavel", just his "real-life chum".
Do we take Stalker at his word? Truth and lie are irrelevant to him.
Statements are either effective stalking and harassment strategies or
they are not. That's all that matters. Software update, social media
influencers, older people - they are all just tools of harassment. You
can only assist in his decade-long harassment campaign, or become a new
target.
==
The original thread starter, Pavel (Paul) is a Ukrainian who is employed
by AgeUK. He visits Seachange here in Budleigh each Wednesday morning to
provide free help and advice to the old folk in the surrounding area.
I've known him for some months now. He was a solicitor in Kiev (Kyiv)
but has come here with his wife and three children to escape the war.
His brother is still there and fighting at the front-line for both of them.
https://www.seachangedevon.org/
--
Any question, just ask.
Ref:- Message-ID: <m3ga7pF27sjU1@mid.individual.net>
> ASC is a private forum.
Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums are *PUBLIC*!
> The moderators can do whatever they want to do. They don't need your permission,
> nor do they owe you an explanation.
THAT is the problem! *Posts are manipulated*.
--
David
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| From | Tyrone <none@none.none> |
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| Date | 2025-03-16 00:10 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) |
| Message-ID | <GRSdnZhyppVyi0v6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #180682 |
On Mar 15, 2025 at 4:42:10 AM EDT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote: > On 15/03/2025 00:45, Tyrone wrote: >> On Mar 14, 2025 at 7:04:48 PM EDT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote: >> >>> On 14/03/2025 21:28, Tyrone wrote: >>>> On Mar 14, 2025 at 4:31:18 PM EDT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'd really like to know WHY the thread was removed. >>>>> >>>>> Any ideas? ....... *anyone*? >>>> >>>> You STILL can't do the math on this? Why are you always surprised that >>>> threads YOU start - or even just participate in - get removed? >>> >>> *I neither started the thread nor participated in it*. >> >> Uh huh. Sure. > > 100% true. > >> But if that is true, then why do you even care? > > What do any of us know really? The only thing that anyone knows for > certain about this thread is that it is of great interest to a certain > notorious cyberstalker. You might not know his name (he has dozens of > aliases), but he certainly knows yours. Stalker claims that he isn't > "kpavel", just his "real-life chum". > > Do we take Stalker at his word? Truth and lie are irrelevant to him. > Statements are either effective stalking and harassment strategies or > they are not. That's all that matters. Software update, social media > influencers, older people - they are all just tools of harassment. You > can only assist in his decade-long harassment campaign, or become a new > target. He is, of course, talking about you. But you know that. >> ASC is a private forum. > > Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums are *PUBLIC*! "Private" here means that you CAN be tossed out for being a jerk. Unlike here. AND they are moderated. That means THE MODERATORS CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT! THAT is what makes them "private". You HAVE to behave. Since you never can, you get banned over and over again. >> The moderators can do whatever they want to do. They don't need your >> permission, >> nor do they owe you an explanation. > > THAT is the problem! *Posts are manipulated*. Only "manipulated" against you. Because you deserve it. Its really very simple. Start acting like an intelligent adult. As long as you continue to act like a childish, conspiracy-driven kooktard, you will be banned from private forums and not be taken seriously anywhere else.
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| From | T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-03-16 12:09 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) |
| Message-ID | <vr6f16$1nohg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #180684 |
On 16/03/2025 00:10, Tyrone wrote: > On Mar 15, 2025 at 4:42:10 AM EDT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote: <snip> > Only "manipulated" against you. Because you deserve it. Very much he does. > > Its really very simple. Start acting like an intelligent adult. Ok, so that's never going to happen because: 1) He won't. He won't because that would mean only conversing on serious / honest subjects for genuine reasons and he's not here for that. He's like trump (who took up the role of President for *him*), Brooks parasited his personal need for any form of contact (even being slapped about) onto this NG and then personally invited people to join him in his madness. 2) So he can't. > As long as > you continue to act like a childish, conspiracy-driven kooktard, you will be > banned from private forums and not be taken seriously anywhere else. Well, that will mean he will have to inhabit a different identity, ideally someone who isn't registered as dead and completely changing his MO as he will be spotted instantly. eg, It ain't gonna happen. Cheers, T i m
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| From | David <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-04-08 09:19 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) |
| Message-ID | <m5k4heFcv25U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180684 |
On 16/03/2025 00:10, Tyrone wrote: > On Mar 15, 2025 at 4:42:10 AM EDT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote: > >> On 15/03/2025 00:45, Tyrone wrote: >>> On Mar 14, 2025 at 7:04:48 PM EDT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote: >>> >>>> On 14/03/2025 21:28, Tyrone wrote: >>>>> On Mar 14, 2025 at 4:31:18 PM EDT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'd really like to know WHY the thread was removed. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any ideas? ....... *anyone*? >>>>> >>>>> You STILL can't do the math on this? Why are you always surprised that >>>>> threads YOU start - or even just participate in - get removed? >>>> >>>> *I neither started the thread nor participated in it*. >>> >>> Uh huh. Sure. >> >> 100% true. >> >>> But if that is true, then why do you even care? >> >> What do any of us know really? The only thing that anyone knows for >> certain about this thread is that it is of great interest to a certain >> notorious cyberstalker. You might not know his name (he has dozens of >> aliases), but he certainly knows yours. Stalker claims that he isn't >> "kpavel", just his "real-life chum". >> >> Do we take Stalker at his word? Truth and lie are irrelevant to him. >> Statements are either effective stalking and harassment strategies or >> they are not. That's all that matters. Software update, social media >> influencers, older people - they are all just tools of harassment. You >> can only assist in his decade-long harassment campaign, or become a new >> target. > > He is, of course, talking about you. But you know that. I do. >>> ASC is a private forum. >> >> Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums are *PUBLIC*! > > "Private" here means that you CAN be tossed out for being a jerk. Unlike > here. AND they are moderated. That means THE MODERATORS CAN DO WHATEVER THEY > WANT! > > THAT is what makes them "private". You HAVE to behave. Since you never can, > you get banned over and over again. The truth WILL out! >>> The moderators can do whatever they want to do. They don't need your >>> permission, >>> nor do they owe you an explanation. >> >> THAT is the problem! *Posts are manipulated*. > > Only "manipulated" against you. Because you deserve it. > > Its really very simple. Start acting like an intelligent adult. As long as > you continue to act like a childish, conspiracy-driven kooktard, you will be > banned from private forums and not be taken seriously anywhere else. Kpavel is a real-life Ukrainian living in England with his family and is a Solicitor by profession. If anyone can get to the bottom of what is going on on the ASC forums, he will! -- David
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| From | David <David.is@home.today> |
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| Date | 2025-03-17 23:43 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) |
| Message-ID | <m3rqduFo1tiU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180674 |
On 14/03/2025 20:31, David wrote: > On 14/03/2025 09:45, David wrote: >> *I asked ChatGPT* ...... >> >> Can you explain what "etresoft" meant? >> >> etresoft >> User level: Level 9 >> 53,118 points >> >> Posted on Mar 12, 2025 5:07 AM >> >> kpavel wrote: >> If this update is critical for security >> >> *It isn't*. >> >> == >> >> Here's the thread:- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/256004656? >> sortBy=rank >> >> == >> >> ChatGPT said .... >> >> "Etresoft" is the developer name used by John Daniel, who created >> EtreCheck — a macOS diagnostic tool designed to identify common issues >> on Macs. On the Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums, "etresoft" was >> also John Daniel's username. He was a frequent and high-level >> contributor, often responding to users' technical questions about macOS. >> >> His posts sometimes included recommendations to use EtreCheck to >> generate system reports. However, his presence on ASC became >> controversial due to concerns about how his posts were handled by >> moderators, and there were reports of his content being manipulated. >> >> Let me know if you want to dive deeper into any part of this! >> >> == >> >> I asked - "Yes - why would he say that an update is NOT critical for >> security?" >> >> == >> >> That’s a great question. When "etresoft" (John Daniel) said an update >> wasn’t critical for security, it could have been for several reasons: >> >> 1. **Personal Opinion or Interpretation**: He might have believed that >> the specific update didn't address any major vulnerabilities, so it >> wasn’t urgent for users to install it right away. Sometimes updates >> focus more on bug fixes or feature improvements than on patching >> security holes. >> >> 2. **Lack of Immediate Threat**: If the update fixed a vulnerability >> that wasn’t actively being exploited, he might have downplayed its >> urgency. Security updates can patch theoretical risks, but not all of >> them address active attacks. >> >> 3. **Misinformation or Bias**: Given the controversies surrounding >> John Daniel, it’s possible he had his own agenda — perhaps trying to >> appear authoritative or dismiss concerns without fully explaining the >> risks. >> >> 4. **Apple's Lack of Transparency**: Sometimes, Apple releases updates >> without clearly stating whether they fix security issues. If etresoft >> didn’t have detailed information about what the update fixed, he might >> have guessed it wasn’t critical. >> >> 5. **Encouraging Users to Rely on EtreCheck**: There’s a chance he >> wanted users to depend more on his tool for diagnosing problems rather >> than focusing on Apple’s updates. This could subtly push people >> towards his software. >> >> It’s a bit suspicious to flat-out dismiss a security update without >> explanation. Would you like me to check what that particular update >> was about, or do you want to dig into his pattern of responses on ASC? >> >> == >> >> I said - "yes!". >> >> == >> >> On March 11, 2025, Apple released iOS 18.3.2 and iPadOS 18.3.2 to >> address a critical WebKit vulnerability (CVE-2025-24201) that was >> actively exploited in sophisticated attacks. This flaw allowed >> malicious web content to bypass system security protections, posing a >> significant risk to users. citeturn0search3 >> >> Security experts emphasized the urgency of installing this update to >> protect personal data and maintain device security. citeturn0search6 >> >> Given the severity of the vulnerability, it's crucial to apply such >> security updates promptly to safeguard against potential threats. >> >> == >> >> Link to original conversation:- https://chatgpt.com/ >> share/67d3f9a7-8fec-8013-a89f-b50bfb16a197 >> >> If there is a simple explanation for the misinformation provided by >> "etresoft", please let me know. > > I'd really like to know WHY the thread was removed. > > Any ideas? ....... *anyone*? RESULT! :-D *The question has been reinstated*! -- David
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| From | David <David.is@home.today> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-03-19 09:20 +0000 |
| Subject | Posting name is different! Who changed that? |
| Message-ID | <m3vgj5FavafU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180695 |
On 17/03/2025 23:43, David wrote:
> On 14/03/2025 20:31, David wrote:
>> On 14/03/2025 09:45, David wrote:
>>> *I asked ChatGPT* ......
>>>
>>> Can you explain what "etresoft" meant?
>>>
>>> etresoft
>>> User level: Level 9
>>> 53,118 points
>>>
>>> Posted on Mar 12, 2025 5:07 AM
>>>
>>> kpavel wrote:
>>> If this update is critical for security
>>>
>>> *It isn't*.
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> Here's the thread:- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/256004656?
>>> sortBy=rank
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> ChatGPT said ....
>>>
>>> "Etresoft" is the developer name used by John Daniel, who created
>>> EtreCheck — a macOS diagnostic tool designed to identify common
>>> issues on Macs. On the Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums,
>>> "etresoft" was also John Daniel's username. He was a frequent and
>>> high-level contributor, often responding to users' technical
>>> questions about macOS.
>>>
>>> His posts sometimes included recommendations to use EtreCheck to
>>> generate system reports. However, his presence on ASC became
>>> controversial due to concerns about how his posts were handled by
>>> moderators, and there were reports of his content being manipulated.
>>>
>>> Let me know if you want to dive deeper into any part of this!
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> I asked - "Yes - why would he say that an update is NOT critical for
>>> security?"
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> That’s a great question. When "etresoft" (John Daniel) said an update
>>> wasn’t critical for security, it could have been for several reasons:
>>>
>>> 1. **Personal Opinion or Interpretation**: He might have believed
>>> that the specific update didn't address any major vulnerabilities, so
>>> it wasn’t urgent for users to install it right away. Sometimes
>>> updates focus more on bug fixes or feature improvements than on
>>> patching security holes.
>>>
>>> 2. **Lack of Immediate Threat**: If the update fixed a vulnerability
>>> that wasn’t actively being exploited, he might have downplayed its
>>> urgency. Security updates can patch theoretical risks, but not all of
>>> them address active attacks.
>>>
>>> 3. **Misinformation or Bias**: Given the controversies surrounding
>>> John Daniel, it’s possible he had his own agenda — perhaps trying to
>>> appear authoritative or dismiss concerns without fully explaining the
>>> risks.
>>>
>>> 4. **Apple's Lack of Transparency**: Sometimes, Apple releases
>>> updates without clearly stating whether they fix security issues. If
>>> etresoft didn’t have detailed information about what the update
>>> fixed, he might have guessed it wasn’t critical.
>>>
>>> 5. **Encouraging Users to Rely on EtreCheck**: There’s a chance he
>>> wanted users to depend more on his tool for diagnosing problems
>>> rather than focusing on Apple’s updates. This could subtly push
>>> people towards his software.
>>>
>>> It’s a bit suspicious to flat-out dismiss a security update without
>>> explanation. Would you like me to check what that particular update
>>> was about, or do you want to dig into his pattern of responses on ASC?
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> I said - "yes!".
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> On March 11, 2025, Apple released iOS 18.3.2 and iPadOS 18.3.2 to
>>> address a critical WebKit vulnerability (CVE-2025-24201) that was
>>> actively exploited in sophisticated attacks. This flaw allowed
>>> malicious web content to bypass system security protections, posing a
>>> significant risk to users. citeturn0search3
>>>
>>> Security experts emphasized the urgency of installing this update to
>>> protect personal data and maintain device security. citeturn0search6
>>>
>>> Given the severity of the vulnerability, it's crucial to apply such
>>> security updates promptly to safeguard against potential threats.
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> Link to original conversation:- https://chatgpt.com/
>>> share/67d3f9a7-8fec-8013-a89f-b50bfb16a197
>>>
>>> If there is a simple explanation for the misinformation provided by
>>> "etresoft", please let me know.
>
>>
>> I'd really like to know WHY the thread was removed.
>>
>> Any ideas? ....... *anyone*?
>
> RESULT! :-D
>
> *The question has been reinstated*!
"Pavlo" and "Pavel" are both given names that share the same origin.
Pavlo (Павло) is the Ukrainian form of the name.
Pavel (Павел) is the Russian, Bulgarian, Czech, Slovak, and Serbian
form of the name.
Both names derive from the Latin Paulus, meaning "small" or "humble."
They are essentially the same name but adapted to different languages
and cultures.
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