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Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......)

From David <David.is@home.today>
Newsgroups uk.comp.sys.mac, alt.computer.workshop
Subject Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......)
Date 2025-03-17 23:43 +0000
Message-ID <m3rqduFo1tiU3@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References <m3ic5tFblitU1@mid.individual.net> <m3ji0mFh612U1@mid.individual.net>

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On 14/03/2025 20:31, David wrote:
> On 14/03/2025 09:45, David wrote:
>> *I asked ChatGPT* ......
>>
>> Can you explain what "etresoft" meant?
>>
>> etresoft
>> User level: Level 9
>> 53,118 points
>>
>> Posted on Mar 12, 2025 5:07 AM
>>
>>      kpavel wrote:
>> If this update is critical for security
>>
>> *It isn't*.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Here's the thread:- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/256004656? 
>> sortBy=rank
>>
>> ==
>>
>> ChatGPT said ....
>>
>> "Etresoft" is the developer name used by John Daniel, who created 
>> EtreCheck — a macOS diagnostic tool designed to identify common issues 
>> on Macs. On the Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums, "etresoft" was 
>> also John Daniel's username. He was a frequent and high-level 
>> contributor, often responding to users' technical questions about macOS.
>>
>> His posts sometimes included recommendations to use EtreCheck to 
>> generate system reports. However, his presence on ASC became 
>> controversial due to concerns about how his posts were handled by 
>> moderators, and there were reports of his content being manipulated.
>>
>> Let me know if you want to dive deeper into any part of this!
>>
>> ==
>>
>> I asked - "Yes - why would he say that an update is NOT critical for 
>> security?"
>>
>> ==
>>
>> That’s a great question. When "etresoft" (John Daniel) said an update 
>> wasn’t critical for security, it could have been for several reasons:
>>
>> 1. **Personal Opinion or Interpretation**: He might have believed that 
>> the specific update didn't address any major vulnerabilities, so it 
>> wasn’t urgent for users to install it right away. Sometimes updates 
>> focus more on bug fixes or feature improvements than on patching 
>> security holes.
>>
>> 2. **Lack of Immediate Threat**: If the update fixed a vulnerability 
>> that wasn’t actively being exploited, he might have downplayed its 
>> urgency. Security updates can patch theoretical risks, but not all of 
>> them address active attacks.
>>
>> 3. **Misinformation or Bias**: Given the controversies surrounding 
>> John Daniel, it’s possible he had his own agenda — perhaps trying to 
>> appear authoritative or dismiss concerns without fully explaining the 
>> risks.
>>
>> 4. **Apple's Lack of Transparency**: Sometimes, Apple releases updates 
>> without clearly stating whether they fix security issues. If etresoft 
>> didn’t have detailed information about what the update fixed, he might 
>> have guessed it wasn’t critical.
>>
>> 5. **Encouraging Users to Rely on EtreCheck**: There’s a chance he 
>> wanted users to depend more on his tool for diagnosing problems rather 
>> than focusing on Apple’s updates. This could subtly push people 
>> towards his software.
>>
>> It’s a bit suspicious to flat-out dismiss a security update without 
>> explanation. Would you like me to check what that particular update 
>> was about, or do you want to dig into his pattern of responses on ASC?
>>
>> ==
>>
>> I said - "yes!".
>>
>> ==
>>
>> On March 11, 2025, Apple released iOS 18.3.2 and iPadOS 18.3.2 to 
>> address a critical WebKit vulnerability (CVE-2025-24201) that was 
>> actively exploited in sophisticated attacks. This flaw allowed 
>> malicious web content to bypass system security protections, posing a 
>> significant risk to users. citeturn0search3
>>
>> Security experts emphasized the urgency of installing this update to 
>> protect personal data and maintain device security. citeturn0search6
>>
>> Given the severity of the vulnerability, it's crucial to apply such 
>> security updates promptly to safeguard against potential threats.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Link to original conversation:- https://chatgpt.com/ 
>> share/67d3f9a7-8fec-8013-a89f-b50bfb16a197
>>
>> If there is a simple explanation for the misinformation provided by 
>> "etresoft", please let me know.

> 
> I'd really like to know WHY the thread was removed.
> 
> Any ideas? ....... *anyone*?

RESULT!  :-D

*The question has been reinstated*!

-- 
David

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Etresoft said ...... David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-14 09:45 +0000
  Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-14 20:31 +0000
    Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-14 13:34 -0700
    Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-03-14 21:28 +0000
      Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> - 2025-03-14 22:24 +0000
        Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-14 15:37 -0700
        Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-15 08:55 +0000
      Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-14 15:36 -0700
      Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-14 23:04 +0000
        Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-03-15 00:45 +0000
          Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-15 08:42 +0000
            Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-03-16 00:10 +0000
              Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> - 2025-03-16 12:09 +0000
              Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) David <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-04-08 09:19 +0100
    Re: Thread has been removed from the ASC forum (Was - Etresoft said ......) David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-17 23:43 +0000
      Posting name is different! Who changed that? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-19 09:20 +0000

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