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Re: iTunes 11 8-(

From "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject Re: iTunes 11 8-(
Date 2014-01-28 10:03 -0500
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Message-ID <lc8gri$at$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References (4 earlier) <drache-A56DC9.14073726012014@news.eternal-september.org> <lc5fe2$uip$1@dont-email.me> <270120141306130852%nospam@nospam.invalid> <lc6m3m$h3f$1@dont-email.me> <270120141833560615%nospam@nospam.invalid>

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On 1/27/14, 6:33 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article <lc6m3m$h3f$1@dont-email.me>, M. John Matlaw
> <nouser@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Anyone know whether I can switch the SIM to a T-Mobile one?
>>>
>>> all ipads are unlocked, so any carrier's sim will work. you may need to
>>> cut it to size (micro versus nano sim).
>>>
>>> the only issue is whether the ipad you have has the appropriate celluar
>>> bands for the carrier you want to use.
>>>
>>> t-mobile uses a different band for 3g (aws) and lte bands vary quite a
>>> bit.
>>>
>>> the ipad air has aws and all lte bands for usa carriers, so no matter
>>> what sim you put in it, it will work just fine.
>>>
>>> older ipads do not have all bands, so although it will work, it may or
>>> may not work at optimum speeds. worst case, it will be 2g in the case
>>> of t-mobile in areas they have not refarmed to 3g, but more commonly,
>>> you just won't get lte.
>>>
>> Sounds like it's not worth the hassle.  Thanks for the info, though.
>
> how do you figure that? t-mobile's 200m free is a no brainer.
>
> if you are in a refarmed area (and you probably are), then it will be
> just fine.
>
I just figured opening up the sucker might be a pain.  Plus if I have to 
cut a SIM (to fit I guess) that might be a bit tricky as well.  I was 
looking into the iPhone 5S with T-Mobile and it looks like they sell the 
SIM chip kit for $10.  I can see myself screwing up and having to run 
through more than one to get it right.  Also, if the speed does drop I'm 
not sure if VOIP will work.  I'd asked in the alt.internet.wireless 
group about that and the only answer I got was that 3G versus 4G might 
not be the problem.  The response is below:

VOIP need a steady non-jittery stream. There is one website to test 
jitter, but it requires a level of flash that I can't run it on my 
phone. People with cable modems soon discover that VOIP is better on 
DSL. It is not a matte of bandwidth but rather a matter of jitter.

http://myspeed.visualware.com/indexvoip.php

I wouldn't put it past the phone companies to make their data jittery 
enough to screw up voice.

endquote


A lot of the stuff in alt.internet.wireless is over my head and didn’t 
quite understand how to figure out if I’d be alright using VOIP at 3g. 
Another reason I figured I might not mess with the iPad is that if I get 
the iPhone with the T-Mobile $30 a month plan with the 5GB at 4G lte 
followed by a drop to 3G that might be enough and I’d drop the $20 a 
month Verizon 1GB.  I’m in NYC and a friend of mine with T-Mobile says 
she hasn’t had too much of a problem with it in terms of coverage.

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iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-25 19:35 -0600
  Re: iTunes 11 8-( Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-25 18:06 -0800
    Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 13:56 +0000
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        Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:15 -0600
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-27 12:40 +0000
  Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 21:15 -0500
    Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 13:56 +0000
      Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 15:08 +0000
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 22:26 +0000
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 23:05 +0000
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( Joe Wolf Dee <joedid@email.com> - 2014-01-26 18:10 -0500
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-01-26 15:40 -0800
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 19:25 -0600
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-27 01:52 +0000
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-27 19:14 -0600
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-28 01:28 +0000
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-01-26 20:30 -0800
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-01-27 06:41 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-27 14:56 +0000
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-27 08:01 -0800
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-27 19:12 -0600
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-27 14:56 +0000
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-27 15:39 +0000
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-27 22:50 +0000
      Re: iTunes 11 8-( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-26 08:51 -0700
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:11 -0600
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 22:26 +0000
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-26 16:27 -0700
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-27 08:19 -0800
      Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 13:55 -0500
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:10 -0600
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-26 13:16 -0800
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 16:38 -0500
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 22:26 +0000
    Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:08 -0600
      Re: iTunes 11 8-( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-27 12:40 +0000
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( W^3 <82ndAve@comcast.net> - 2014-01-30 23:22 -0800
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-01-31 03:11 -0800
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-31 21:42 +0000
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-01-31 16:33 -0800
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-01 16:30 +0000
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-31 12:34 +0000
  Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 02:44 +0000
    Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 13:56 +0000
      Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 15:06 +0000
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-26 07:28 -0800
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 13:55 -0500
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:07 -0600
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 15:38 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 22:26 +0000
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-01-27 06:20 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-27 13:06 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-01-27 17:20 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-27 18:33 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-01-28 10:03 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:36 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-02-08 10:40 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-08 12:54 -0500
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:05 -0600
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 15:38 -0500
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 22:26 +0000
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 13:55 -0500

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