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Re: iTunes 11 8-(

From Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject Re: iTunes 11 8-(
Date 2014-01-27 12:40 +0000
Organization Miskatonic U
Message-ID <slrnleckto.rt4.g.kreme@amelia.local> (permalink)
References <drache-DC7CDA.19350325012014@news.eternal-september.org> <vilain-BC9E73.18064025012014@news.individual.net> <lc346m$j5u$7@dont-email.me> <slrnlea5i4.4tm.g.kreme@amelia.local> <drache-E22A31.14151426012014@news.eternal-september.org>

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In message <drache-E22A31.14151426012014@news.eternal-september.org> 
  erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> In article <slrnlea5i4.4tm.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> In message <lc346m$j5u$7@dont-email.me> 
>>   Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>> > Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
>> >> In article <drache-DC7CDA.19350325012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> >>  erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >>> I "up"graded iTunes because I'm probably going to buy an iPad Air soon.  
>> >>> It's a mucky mess.  
>> >>> The master music list has vanished, as far as I can see.  Is there a way 
>> >>> to get it back? 
>> >>> It took several tries to find where my playlists were hidden.  
>> >>> It won't let me see album covers at the bottom of the playlists any 
>> >>> more, just uses up a 3-inch column so most of my info is hidden off to 
>> >>> the right and I have to scroll to find it.
>> >>> It wanted to make my book/pdf lists impossible to read with monsterview, 
>> >>> but I finally managed to defeat that, too.
>> >>> 
>> >>> My distrust of "up"grades has been vindicated yet again.
>> >> 
>> >> Google is your friend. I discovered that unless you have a backup of 
>> >> your entire system, you can't back out of updating iTunes.  When v11 
>> >> came out, it had some really bad podcast bugs which I had to back out by 
>> >> hand from my backup. TimeMachine was NO help--I needed a disk archive 
>> >> and a utility to unpack the iTunes Installation package and replace all 
>> >> the old components by hand from the command-line.
>> >> 
>> >> My guess is that's not an option for you.  And if you didn't take a full 
>> >> clone dump of your disk prior to upgrading, you out of luck when it 
>> >> comes to backing out to a prior version of iTunes.
>> >> 
>> >> BUT...you can tweak things back to the old iTunes interface with some 
>> >> command-line juju and poking around various options in the interface.
>> >> 
>> >> <http://www.tuaw.com/2012/12/07/itunes-11-for-fogies-where-did-that-stuff
>> >> -go/>
>> >> <http://www.davescomputertips.com/itunes-11-how-to-get-back-to-the-classi
>> >> c-look/>
>> >> <http://www.macworld.com/article/1154017/restoreitunesinterface.html>
>> 
>> > After considerable grumbling and experimentation(I am stubborn) I did those
>> > things.  I still miss the master music list and the album covers at the
>> > bottom of the playlist rather than wasting 3 inches of content,
>> > particularly since I've had to scan in the covers of a goodly number of
>> > them(apple is far from my only music source and I REALLY dislike most
>> > popular music) i also liked being able to turn lists upsidedown now and
>> > then and have yet to find that, if it still exists.
>> 
>> Does anyone have the foggiest idea what he's complaining about?
>> 
>> 3" of what?
>> 
>> When I launch iTunes I get a list of all the 24,987 music tracks, just
>> like I've gotten in iTunes since... Well, since before it was called
>> iTunes.

> I'm a she.   And I get a fat graphic of an album cover or blank graphic 
> even for a single song.  I don't get an actual uninterrupted list of 
> content.  If you can tell me how to dump the graphics, I will be very 
> thankful.  It's not in View or Prefs or in the useless Help menus.

<https://www.dropbox.com/s/2dxxhknu2gp2d3q/Screenshot%202014-01-27%2005.38.28.PNG>

This is what iTuens looks like for me. A list of songs, in this case,
sorted by album name.

-- 
"You can speak soon and write like a graduate college if me let you help
for a day of 15 minutes" "1963" Issue #1

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iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-25 19:35 -0600
  Re: iTunes 11 8-( Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-25 18:06 -0800
    Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 13:56 +0000
      Re: iTunes 11 8-( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-26 14:05 +0000
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:15 -0600
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-27 12:40 +0000
  Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 21:15 -0500
    Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 13:56 +0000
      Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 15:08 +0000
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 22:26 +0000
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 23:05 +0000
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( Joe Wolf Dee <joedid@email.com> - 2014-01-26 18:10 -0500
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-01-26 15:40 -0800
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 19:25 -0600
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-27 01:52 +0000
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-27 19:14 -0600
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-28 01:28 +0000
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-01-26 20:30 -0800
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-01-27 06:41 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-27 14:56 +0000
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-27 08:01 -0800
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-27 19:12 -0600
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-27 14:56 +0000
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-27 15:39 +0000
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-27 22:50 +0000
      Re: iTunes 11 8-( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-26 08:51 -0700
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:11 -0600
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 22:26 +0000
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-26 16:27 -0700
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-27 08:19 -0800
      Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 13:55 -0500
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:10 -0600
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-26 13:16 -0800
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 16:38 -0500
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 22:26 +0000
    Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:08 -0600
      Re: iTunes 11 8-( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-27 12:40 +0000
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( W^3 <82ndAve@comcast.net> - 2014-01-30 23:22 -0800
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-01-31 03:11 -0800
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-31 21:42 +0000
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-01-31 16:33 -0800
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-01 16:30 +0000
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-31 12:34 +0000
  Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 02:44 +0000
    Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 13:56 +0000
      Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 15:06 +0000
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-26 07:28 -0800
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 13:55 -0500
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:07 -0600
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 15:38 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 22:26 +0000
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-01-27 06:20 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-27 13:06 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-01-27 17:20 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-27 18:33 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-01-28 10:03 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:36 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-02-08 10:40 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-08 12:54 -0500
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:05 -0600
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 15:38 -0500
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 22:26 +0000
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 13:55 -0500

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