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Re: Autoboxing and Performance ?

From	Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject	Re: Autoboxing and Performance ?
Date	2013-08-22 21:19 +0000
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:19:58 +0000, Stefan Ram wrote:

>   Moreover, a lenght (in physics) /does not have/ a unit!
>
As a chemistry graduate I disagree quite strongly with that. Its quite 
impossible to calculate anything without knowing the units the givens 
were measured in. I seem to recall a certain NASA Mars probe failing 
because the units used to measure fuel remaining were unstated. As a 
result somebody calculated burns wrongly by confusing lbs and kg, causing 
the probe to run out of fuel and miss Mars entirely.

>   For example, there is a certain distance from the sun to the Procyon,
>   what is the unit of that lenght? As a physical value, it has no unit!
>   Only when one wants to write it down, one has to choose a certain unit
>   system and number system, and one can choose every unit system one
>   likes. This is an artefact of our notation, not a property of the
>   length.
>
If you don't know the units the measurement was made in, its a 
meaningless number that can't be used to calculate a valid result any 
more than you can add "not very far" to "a huge distance" and get a 
measurable distance.
 

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martin@   | Martin Gregorie
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Autoboxing and Performance ? Peter Olcott <OCR4Screen> - 2013-08-20 05:15 -0500
  Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-08-20 12:20 +0200
    Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Peter Olcott <OCR4Screen> - 2013-08-20 05:33 -0500
      Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2013-08-20 10:43 +0000
        Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Peter Olcott <OCR4Screen> - 2013-08-20 06:04 -0500
          Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-08-20 08:08 -0400
          Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-08-20 20:15 -0400
      Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-08-20 20:12 -0400
      Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-08-21 03:52 +0300
        Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Sebastian <news@seyweiler.dyndns.org> - 2013-08-21 07:27 +0200
          Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-08-21 18:43 -0400
            Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-08-22 08:08 +0300
          Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-08-22 07:56 +0300
            Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-08-22 10:51 -0700
              Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-08-22 19:36 +0000
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-08-22 13:01 -0700
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-08-22 21:19 +0000
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-08-22 14:39 -0700
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? markspace <markspace@nospam.nospam> - 2013-08-22 19:50 -0700
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-08-23 23:16 +0000
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-08-24 17:20 +0300
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-08-23 11:08 -0700
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-08-23 22:52 +0200
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2013-08-23 16:38 -0700
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? "John B. Matthews" <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-08-23 06:17 -0400
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-23 17:25 -0400
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-25 18:34 -0400
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-28 10:52 -0400
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-08-23 23:37 +0000
        Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2013-08-26 19:33 +0200
          Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-08-29 10:09 +0300
            Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2013-08-29 14:14 +0200
      Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-08-29 21:28 -0300
  Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2013-08-20 20:03 +0200
    Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-08-20 16:23 -0700
      Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2013-08-21 11:51 +0200
        Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-08-21 08:39 -0700
          Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-08-21 16:51 +0100
        Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-08-21 19:19 -0400
          Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2013-08-22 09:49 +0200
    Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2013-08-21 11:54 +0200
  Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-08-20 20:06 -0400
    Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-08-20 21:19 -0400
      Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-08-21 10:05 +0200
        Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-08-21 07:19 -0400
          Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-08-22 00:18 +0200
            Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-08-21 19:58 -0400
        Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-08-21 08:36 -0700
      Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? taqmcg@gmail.com - 2013-08-21 09:37 -0700
  Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2013-08-20 23:28 -0500
  Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-08-21 10:09 +0100
    Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-08-21 19:04 -0400
      Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Arivald <NOSPAMarivald@interia.pl> - 2013-08-22 07:39 +0200
  Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-08-29 01:42 -0300

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