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Re: Autoboxing and Performance ?

From	Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject	Re: Autoboxing and Performance ?
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Date	2013-08-22 10:51 -0700

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On 8/21/13 9:56 PM, Sven Köhler wrote:
> Am 21.08.2013 08:27, schrieb Sebastian:
>> What do you think? Is simply wanting to have a "null" value a valid
>> reason for using Integer instead of int?
>
> If you just store the value like that, that is probably just fine.
> However, if I see your program actually working with that nullable int
> and thus unboxing/reboxing it over and over again, then that should
> probably be criticized if the code path is performance critical.
> Also, it is a fact that having hundreds and thousands of Integer objects
> take probably 4 times more space than having the same number of ints.
It depends.  There is a small "cache" of objects that will reused.

> I guess, I'd rather not like to settle on a general yes/no - it depends.

Good OO design would say that you shouldn't have many "raw" values, 
primitive or otherwise. Most numeric values represent something 
specific, so you should create a class to describe that specific 
something.  Whether that class has an immutable value or not depends on 
what makes sense for the context.

Start with a clean and clear design. If you find that too many resources 
are being used, then and only then reduce to use raw primitives.

To be clear, I'm not talking about "int" vs "Integer". Those are both 
Primitive (though not primitive).  I'm talking about "int" vs "Length".

Same goes for collections. A "List" or even an array are relatively 
primitive, and in many circumstances should be wrapped.  Not all, of 
course, but if the List object is passed around, then it may be better 
to replace it with an abstraction.

Granted, this is all from a purist OO design, and in reality adding 
these abstractions may produce bulky code which is actually less clear. 
Only experience can help in determining when to and when not to.

Thread

Autoboxing and Performance ? Peter Olcott <OCR4Screen> - 2013-08-20 05:15 -0500
  Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-08-20 12:20 +0200
    Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Peter Olcott <OCR4Screen> - 2013-08-20 05:33 -0500
      Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2013-08-20 10:43 +0000
        Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Peter Olcott <OCR4Screen> - 2013-08-20 06:04 -0500
          Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-08-20 08:08 -0400
          Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-08-20 20:15 -0400
      Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-08-20 20:12 -0400
      Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-08-21 03:52 +0300
        Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Sebastian <news@seyweiler.dyndns.org> - 2013-08-21 07:27 +0200
          Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-08-21 18:43 -0400
            Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-08-22 08:08 +0300
          Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-08-22 07:56 +0300
            Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-08-22 10:51 -0700
              Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-08-22 19:36 +0000
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-08-22 13:01 -0700
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-08-22 21:19 +0000
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-08-22 14:39 -0700
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? markspace <markspace@nospam.nospam> - 2013-08-22 19:50 -0700
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-08-23 23:16 +0000
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-08-24 17:20 +0300
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-08-23 11:08 -0700
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-08-23 22:52 +0200
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2013-08-23 16:38 -0700
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? "John B. Matthews" <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-08-23 06:17 -0400
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-23 17:25 -0400
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-25 18:34 -0400
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-28 10:52 -0400
                Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-08-23 23:37 +0000
        Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2013-08-26 19:33 +0200
          Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-08-29 10:09 +0300
            Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2013-08-29 14:14 +0200
      Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-08-29 21:28 -0300
  Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2013-08-20 20:03 +0200
    Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-08-20 16:23 -0700
      Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2013-08-21 11:51 +0200
        Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-08-21 08:39 -0700
          Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-08-21 16:51 +0100
        Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-08-21 19:19 -0400
          Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2013-08-22 09:49 +0200
    Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2013-08-21 11:54 +0200
  Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-08-20 20:06 -0400
    Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-08-20 21:19 -0400
      Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-08-21 10:05 +0200
        Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-08-21 07:19 -0400
          Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-08-22 00:18 +0200
            Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-08-21 19:58 -0400
        Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-08-21 08:36 -0700
      Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? taqmcg@gmail.com - 2013-08-21 09:37 -0700
  Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2013-08-20 23:28 -0500
  Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-08-21 10:09 +0100
    Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-08-21 19:04 -0400
      Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Arivald <NOSPAMarivald@interia.pl> - 2013-08-22 07:39 +0200
  Re: Autoboxing and Performance ? Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-08-29 01:42 -0300

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