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On 1/8/2012 4:59 PM, Gregor Kofler wrote:
> Am 2012-01-08 21:49, Jerry Stuckle meinte:
>
>>> I can't see any difference to 3GLs. Take the mentioned CF. It allows to
>>> define the data type of supplied arguments for function calls. It allows
>>> intrinsic escaping of query strings. Both features *can* (and should) be
>>> used, but it's not obligatory (and they are not "enabled" by some
>>> default setting). Not doing can and will lead to injections. It's more
>>> or less the same thing as with PHP.
>>>
>>
>> First of all, please study up on what a 3GL language is and what a 4GL
>> language is (I won't get into it here - it's off topic in this newsgroup).
>
> LOL. Yes, I can ready the Wikipedia article. From the list there, I know
> and have worked with Clipper, ColdFusion and Mathematica. (And
> ColdFusion in particular urges for a comparison to PHP.)
>
> BTW: the *German* Wikipedia article states that
> "The term 4GL cannot be exactly defined and is used mainly for marketing
> purposes".
>
>>>> And even with a CMS you have to write your own scripts.
>>>
>>> Pardon? You can, but you don't have to. No need to write scripts with
>>> WordPress, Joomla!, Typo3, ...
>
>> I've used WordPress, Joomla and Drupal.  In every one of them I've ended
>> up writing code for my client because the plugins don't do what he wants.
>
> So? As I said: you can, but you don't have to. And even then, one (well,
> perhaps not you) would use the CMS' own functions, classes and
> framework. Besides, I'm pretty sure the *vast* majority of CMS based
> websites out there don't sport any individual code snippets.
>

But even if you're using the CMS's own functions, classes and frameworks 
you can have security problems in your own code.

And yes, I'm sure there are sites which don't use anything else.  Just 
as there are sites which use no server-side programming at all.

I'd like to see where you get your statistics that the "*vast majority 
of CMS based websites out there don't support any individual code snippets".

>> Of course, if you just tell the client he can only do what the addons
>> allow, that's one thing.  I prefer to satisfy the client's needs.
>
> You are every PHP developer's hero. I'd have never thought of that...
>
> Gregor


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Lilupophilupop "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-01-07 13:15 +0100
  Re: Lilupophilupop Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-01-07 08:15 -0500
    Re: Lilupophilupop Thomas Mlynarczyk <thomas@mlynarczyk-webdesign.de> - 2012-01-07 18:27 +0100
      Re: Lilupophilupop "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2012-01-07 18:52 +0100
        Re: Lilupophilupop Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-01-07 16:02 -0500
      Re: Lilupophilupop "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2012-01-10 18:31 -0600
        Re: Lilupophilupop "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-01-11 09:29 +0100
          Re: Lilupophilupop Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-01-11 08:42 -0500
          Re: Lilupophilupop Erwin Moller <erwinmollerusenet@xs4all.nl> - 2012-01-11 15:23 +0100
  Re: Lilupophilupop Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2012-01-07 14:28 +0100
    Re: Lilupophilupop "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-01-07 16:13 +0100
      Re: Lilupophilupop Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-01-07 18:03 +0100
      Re: Lilupophilupop Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2012-01-07 20:34 +0100
        Re: Lilupophilupop "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-01-08 14:53 +0100
          Re: Lilupophilupop Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2012-01-08 15:27 +0100
            Re: Lilupophilupop Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-01-08 10:00 -0500
              Re: Lilupophilupop Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2012-01-08 18:29 +0100
                Re: Lilupophilupop Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-01-08 15:49 -0500
                Re: Lilupophilupop Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2012-01-08 22:59 +0100
                Re: Lilupophilupop Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-01-08 17:38 -0500

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