Re: Lilupophilupop

From	Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.php
Subject	Re: Lilupophilupop
Date	2012-01-08 22:59 +0100
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Am 2012-01-08 21:49, Jerry Stuckle meinte:

>> I can't see any difference to 3GLs. Take the mentioned CF. It allows to
>> define the data type of supplied arguments for function calls. It allows
>> intrinsic escaping of query strings. Both features *can* (and should) be
>> used, but it's not obligatory (and they are not "enabled" by some
>> default setting). Not doing can and will lead to injections. It's more
>> or less the same thing as with PHP.
>>
> 
> First of all, please study up on what a 3GL language is and what a 4GL
> language is (I won't get into it here - it's off topic in this newsgroup).

LOL. Yes, I can ready the Wikipedia article. From the list there, I know
and have worked with Clipper, ColdFusion and Mathematica. (And
ColdFusion in particular urges for a comparison to PHP.)

BTW: the *German* Wikipedia article states that
"The term 4GL cannot be exactly defined and is used mainly for marketing
purposes".

>>> And even with a CMS you have to write your own scripts.
>>
>> Pardon? You can, but you don't have to. No need to write scripts with
>> WordPress, Joomla!, Typo3, ...

> I've used WordPress, Joomla and Drupal.  In every one of them I've ended
> up writing code for my client because the plugins don't do what he wants.

So? As I said: you can, but you don't have to. And even then, one (well,
perhaps not you) would use the CMS' own functions, classes and
framework. Besides, I'm pretty sure the *vast* majority of CMS based
websites out there don't sport any individual code snippets.

> Of course, if you just tell the client he can only do what the addons
> allow, that's one thing.  I prefer to satisfy the client's needs.

You are every PHP developer's hero. I'd have never thought of that...

Gregor

Thread

Lilupophilupop "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-01-07 13:15 +0100
  Re: Lilupophilupop Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-01-07 08:15 -0500
    Re: Lilupophilupop Thomas Mlynarczyk <thomas@mlynarczyk-webdesign.de> - 2012-01-07 18:27 +0100
      Re: Lilupophilupop "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2012-01-07 18:52 +0100
        Re: Lilupophilupop Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-01-07 16:02 -0500
      Re: Lilupophilupop "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2012-01-10 18:31 -0600
        Re: Lilupophilupop "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-01-11 09:29 +0100
          Re: Lilupophilupop Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-01-11 08:42 -0500
          Re: Lilupophilupop Erwin Moller <erwinmollerusenet@xs4all.nl> - 2012-01-11 15:23 +0100
  Re: Lilupophilupop Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2012-01-07 14:28 +0100
    Re: Lilupophilupop "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-01-07 16:13 +0100
      Re: Lilupophilupop Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-01-07 18:03 +0100
      Re: Lilupophilupop Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2012-01-07 20:34 +0100
        Re: Lilupophilupop "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-01-08 14:53 +0100
          Re: Lilupophilupop Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2012-01-08 15:27 +0100
            Re: Lilupophilupop Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-01-08 10:00 -0500
              Re: Lilupophilupop Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2012-01-08 18:29 +0100
                Re: Lilupophilupop Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-01-08 15:49 -0500
                Re: Lilupophilupop Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2012-01-08 22:59 +0100
                Re: Lilupophilupop Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-01-08 17:38 -0500

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