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"Peter Jason" <pj@jostle.com> wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 17:23:23 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Peter Jason" <pj@jostle.com> wrote in message
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>>> On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 14:45:45 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Peter Jason" <pj@jostle.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 15:49:57 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many here have probably wondered why some seem to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think in a different way. Well, there's a possible answer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.economist.com/united-states/2018/12/08/what-psychology-experiments-tell-you-about-why-people-deny-facts
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A prize example is the reasoning of Keynesian economists
>>>>>>>>>>>>> who think endless spending is a path to prosperity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>That's not what they think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oh fer chrissake....!
>>>>>>>>>>> Read on, and be chastened.....
>>>>>>>>>>> http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877331,00.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nothing to do with that silly shit of yours about Keynesian
>>>>>>>>>> economists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> More snake-oiling here.....
>>>>>>>>>>> http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1847213_1847216_1847197,00.html#
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nothing to do with that silly shit of yours about Keynesian
>>>>>>>>>> economists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's called "Paradigm Prioritizing", that is following
>>>>>>>>>>> BLINDLY the teaching of past ages, like Darwin, Jesus,
>>>>>>>>>>> Mohammed, Marx, Keynes, Newton, and a billion more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Keynes never was into endless spending as a path to prosperity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The trouble is that the present &
>>>>>>>>>>> future is never exactly like the past.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't need to be. We did in fact do what was necessary
>>>>>>>>>> when the worst recession since the great depression
>>>>>>>>>> showed up and recovered much more quickly than
>>>>>>>>>> we did after the great depression because we did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You have but postponed it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope, the unemployment rate has returned to what it
>>>>>>>> was before most of the world financial system imploded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're so naive.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We'll see...
>>>>>>
>>>>>><reams of the shit you always end up with
>>>>>>when you have got done like a fucking dinner,
>>>>>>as you always are, flushed where it belongs>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The definition of "employment" is very elastic
>>>>>>> and hardly corresponds to that of before 2000.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
>>>>>>usually manage, and that's saying something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A man working one day a week is "employed".
>>>>>>> So what?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So anyone who wants work who
>>>>>>isnt unemployable can get it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Man in the Street is still up to his nuts in debt,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Because with interest rates so low, that's what makes sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is the sort of thinking a good recession will fix.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The 2008 recession, the worst since the great depression, didn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> groaning under a huge mortgage,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because with interest rates so low, that's what makes sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is the sort of thinking a good recession will fix.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The 2008 recession, the worst since the great depression, didn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and the housing boom is the only game in town.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually
>>>>>>>> manage. And the boom has come off for quite a
>>>>>>>> while now in Sydney, Melburg, Perth and BrizVegas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's not dead yet,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It won't ever be dead, you watch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and we'll see if the goons in power will
>>>>>>> lower interest rates still further to maintain
>>>>>>> the Boom, AND their investments in it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bad luck about rising interest rates overseas though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ours are already higher than theirs, you pig ignorant clown.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oz wages are spent overseas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...uh, it was a little boy who saw the Emperor had no clothes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and investment income is miniscule.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...uh, it was a little boy who saw the Emperor had no clothes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Only a recession can alter the spendthrift thinking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just wait and see.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We've seen, we didn't even get a recession when
>>>>>>>> most of the world financial system imploded
>>>>>>>> spectacularly and NOT ONE retail bank imploded
>>>>>>>> here or even needed  to be bailed out either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A hard rain's gonna fall;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fools claimed that in 2008, didn't happen here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> something wicked this way comes;
>>>>>>>>> the music's gonna stop; etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Only in your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasyland.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wake up Oz!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Go back to sleep, stupid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thrift is the only way, tried and proved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage, and that's saying
>>>>>>>>>>>> something.
>>>>
>>>><reams of the shit you always end up with
>>>>when you have got done like a fucking dinner,
>>>>as you always are, flushed where it belongs>
>>
>>> Why do I imagine you're up to you ears in debt,
>>
>>There you go, face down in the mud, as always.
>>No debt what so ever to anyone and havent had
>>any debt what so ever for more than 50 fucking
>>years and the last of it was only because the NSW
>>state govt used to flog blocks of land off here
>>for either cash or payments over 20 years or
>>something with a derisory interest rate charged
>>and I was earning far more in the stock market
>>on that money than the interest rate I paid,
>>so there was no point in paying it off.
>>
>>> if not to a bookie then to some property-loans shark?
>>
>>There you go, face down in the mud, as always.
>>I have only ever bet on the horses just once, on
>>the melbourne cup, when I came here for a job
>>interview. And I won that bet and got the job too.
>>
>>> Do you think that kicked-upstairs geriatric at
>>> the Reserve Bank will lower interest rates so
>>> the goons in Canberra can get your vote?
>>
>>Unlikely given that they hiked them in
>>the runup to one federal election which
>>the coalition won comfortably anyway.
>>
>>> Wake up boy!
>>
>>Go back to sleep, you silly clown.
>>
>>> If I were you I'd get prepared by stocking up on tinned
>>> fish & bottled water for the looming apocalypse
>>
>>Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.
>>
>>> AND I'd ferret out a fake passport to flee
>>> when the bailiffs arrive to seize your chattels.
>>
>>Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.
>>
>>> You have been warned.
>>
>>We've all been wanked at by some drug crazed drunken clown, actually.
>>
>
> Beware complacency!  It may be comfortable in your present state.......
> ...........but things can change for the worst.

No they can't in my case

<reams of the shit you always end up with
when you have got done like a fucking dinner,
as you always are, flushed where it belongs>
 

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    Re: Failures in reasoning "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-12-16 18:25 -0800
    Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 15:51 +1100
      Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-18 09:13 +1100
        Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 12:16 +1100
          Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-19 12:27 +1100
            Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 14:15 +1100
              Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-19 14:56 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 15:49 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-20 07:36 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-12-19 12:53 -0800
                Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 14:45 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-20 15:58 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 17:23 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-21 09:50 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 15:16 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-22 09:51 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 10:25 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-22 10:47 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 13:57 +1100
  Re: Failures in reasoning Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-12-16 19:56 -0800
    Re: Failures in reasoning Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2018-12-17 22:22 +1100
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