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"Peter Jason" <pj@jostle.com> wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 15:16:29 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Peter Jason" <pj@jostle.com> wrote in message
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>>> On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 17:23:23 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Peter Jason" <pj@jostle.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 14:45:45 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Peter Jason" <pj@jostle.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:6pal1etb128k7sml446tgn3ojgv60uffst@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 15:49:57 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many here have probably wondered why some seem to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think in a different way. Well, there's a possible answer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.economist.com/united-states/2018/12/08/what-psychology-experiments-tell-you-about-why-people-deny-facts
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A prize example is the reasoning of Keynesian economists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who think endless spending is a path to prosperity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>That's not what they think.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh fer chrissake....!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read on, and be chastened.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877331,00.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing to do with that silly shit of yours about Keynesian
>>>>>>>>>>>> economists.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> More snake-oiling here.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1847213_1847216_1847197,00.html#
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing to do with that silly shit of yours about Keynesian
>>>>>>>>>>>> economists.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's called "Paradigm Prioritizing", that is following
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BLINDLY the teaching of past ages, like Darwin, Jesus,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mohammed, Marx, Keynes, Newton, and a billion more.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Keynes never was into endless spending as a path to prosperity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The trouble is that the present &
>>>>>>>>>>>>> future is never exactly like the past.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't need to be. We did in fact do what was necessary
>>>>>>>>>>>> when the worst recession since the great depression
>>>>>>>>>>>> showed up and recovered much more quickly than
>>>>>>>>>>>> we did after the great depression because we did.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You have but postponed it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nope, the unemployment rate has returned to what it
>>>>>>>>>> was before most of the world financial system imploded.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're so naive.....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>We'll see...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>><reams of the shit you always end up with
>>>>>>>>when you have got done like a fucking dinner,
>>>>>>>>as you always are, flushed where it belongs>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The definition of "employment" is very elastic
>>>>>>>>> and hardly corresponds to that of before 2000.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
>>>>>>>>usually manage, and that's saying something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A man working one day a week is "employed".
>>>>>>>>> So what?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So anyone who wants work who
>>>>>>>>isnt unemployable can get it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Man in the Street is still up to his nuts in debt,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Because with interest rates so low, that's what makes sense.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is the sort of thinking a good recession will fix.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The 2008 recession, the worst since the great depression, didn't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> groaning under a huge mortgage,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Because with interest rates so low, that's what makes sense.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is the sort of thinking a good recession will fix.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The 2008 recession, the worst since the great depression, didn't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and the housing boom is the only game in town.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually
>>>>>>>>>> manage. And the boom has come off for quite a
>>>>>>>>>> while now in Sydney, Melburg, Perth and BrizVegas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's not dead yet,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It won't ever be dead, you watch.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and we'll see if the goons in power will
>>>>>>>>> lower interest rates still further to maintain
>>>>>>>>> the Boom, AND their investments in it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bad luck about rising interest rates overseas though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ours are already higher than theirs, you pig ignorant clown.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oz wages are spent overseas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...uh, it was a little boy who saw the Emperor had no clothes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and investment income is miniscule.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...uh, it was a little boy who saw the Emperor had no clothes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Only a recession can alter the spendthrift thinking.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just wait and see.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We've seen, we didn't even get a recession when
>>>>>>>>>> most of the world financial system imploded
>>>>>>>>>> spectacularly and NOT ONE retail bank imploded
>>>>>>>>>> here or even needed  to be bailed out either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A hard rain's gonna fall;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fools claimed that in 2008, didn't happen here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> something wicked this way comes;
>>>>>>>>>>> the music's gonna stop; etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Only in your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasyland.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wake up Oz!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Go back to sleep, stupid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thrift is the only way, tried and proved.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage, and that's saying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>><reams of the shit you always end up with
>>>>>>when you have got done like a fucking dinner,
>>>>>>as you always are, flushed where it belongs>
>>>>
>>>>> Why do I imagine you're up to you ears in debt,
>>>>
>>>>There you go, face down in the mud, as always.
>>>>No debt what so ever to anyone and havent had
>>>>any debt what so ever for more than 50 fucking
>>>>years and the last of it was only because the NSW
>>>>state govt used to flog blocks of land off here
>>>>for either cash or payments over 20 years or
>>>>something with a derisory interest rate charged
>>>>and I was earning far more in the stock market
>>>>on that money than the interest rate I paid,
>>>>so there was no point in paying it off.
>>>>
>>>>> if not to a bookie then to some property-loans shark?
>>>>
>>>>There you go, face down in the mud, as always.
>>>>I have only ever bet on the horses just once, on
>>>>the melbourne cup, when I came here for a job
>>>>interview. And I won that bet and got the job too.
>>>>
>>>>> Do you think that kicked-upstairs geriatric at
>>>>> the Reserve Bank will lower interest rates so
>>>>> the goons in Canberra can get your vote?
>>>>
>>>>Unlikely given that they hiked them in
>>>>the runup to one federal election which
>>>>the coalition won comfortably anyway.
>>>>
>>>>> Wake up boy!
>>>>
>>>>Go back to sleep, you silly clown.
>>>>
>>>>> If I were you I'd get prepared by stocking up on tinned
>>>>> fish & bottled water for the looming apocalypse
>>>>
>>>>Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.
>>>>
>>>>> AND I'd ferret out a fake passport to flee
>>>>> when the bailiffs arrive to seize your chattels.
>>>>
>>>>Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.
>>>>
>>>>> You have been warned.
>>>>
>>>>We've all been wanked at by some drug crazed drunken clown, actually.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Beware complacency!  It may be comfortable in your present state.......
>>> ...........but things can change for the worst.
>>
>>No they can't in my case

<reams of the shit you always end up with
when you have got done like a fucking dinner,
as you always are, flushed where it belongs>
 

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    Re: Failures in reasoning "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-12-16 18:25 -0800
    Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 15:51 +1100
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        Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 12:16 +1100
          Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-19 12:27 +1100
            Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 14:15 +1100
              Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-19 14:56 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 15:49 +1100
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                Re: Failures in reasoning "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-12-19 12:53 -0800
                Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 14:45 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-20 15:58 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 17:23 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-21 09:50 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 15:16 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-22 09:51 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 10:25 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-22 10:47 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 13:57 +1100
  Re: Failures in reasoning Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-12-16 19:56 -0800
    Re: Failures in reasoning Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2018-12-17 22:22 +1100
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