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"Peter Jason" <pj@jostle.com> wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 14:45:45 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Peter Jason" <pj@jostle.com> wrote in message
>>news:6pal1etb128k7sml446tgn3ojgv60uffst@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 15:49:57 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Many here have probably wondered why some seem to
>>>>>>>>>>>> think in a different way. Well, there's a possible answer.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.economist.com/united-states/2018/12/08/what-psychology-experiments-tell-you-about-why-people-deny-facts
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A prize example is the reasoning of Keynesian economists
>>>>>>>>>>> who think endless spending is a path to prosperity.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>That's not what they think.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh fer chrissake....!
>>>>>>>>> Read on, and be chastened.....
>>>>>>>>> http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877331,00.html
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nothing to do with that silly shit of yours about Keynesian
>>>>>>>> economists.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More snake-oiling here.....
>>>>>>>>> http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1847213_1847216_1847197,00.html#
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nothing to do with that silly shit of yours about Keynesian
>>>>>>>> economists.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's called "Paradigm Prioritizing", that is following
>>>>>>>>> BLINDLY the teaching of past ages, like Darwin, Jesus,
>>>>>>>>> Mohammed, Marx, Keynes, Newton, and a billion more.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keynes never was into endless spending as a path to prosperity.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The trouble is that the present &
>>>>>>>>> future is never exactly like the past.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doesn't need to be. We did in fact do what was necessary
>>>>>>>> when the worst recession since the great depression
>>>>>>>> showed up and recovered much more quickly than
>>>>>>>> we did after the great depression because we did.
>>>>
>>>>>>> You have but postponed it.
>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, the unemployment rate has returned to what it
>>>>>> was before most of the world financial system imploded.
>>>>
>>>>> You're so naive.....
>>>>
>>>>We'll see...
>>>>
>>>><reams of the shit you always end up with
>>>>when you have got done like a fucking dinner,
>>>>as you always are, flushed where it belongs>
>>>>
>>>>> The definition of "employment" is very elastic
>>>>> and hardly corresponds to that of before 2000.
>>>>
>>>>Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
>>>>usually manage, and that's saying something.
>>>>
>>>>> A man working one day a week is "employed".
>>>>> So what?
>>>>
>>>>So anyone who wants work who
>>>>isnt unemployable can get it.
>>>>
>>>>>>> The Man in the Street is still up to his nuts in debt,
>>>>
>>>>>>Because with interest rates so low, that's what makes sense.
>>>>
>>>>> This is the sort of thinking a good recession will fix.
>>>>
>>>>The 2008 recession, the worst since the great depression, didn't.
>>>>
>>>>>>> groaning under a huge mortgage,
>>>>
>>>>>> Because with interest rates so low, that's what makes sense.
>>>>
>>>>> This is the sort of thinking a good recession will fix.
>>>>
>>>>The 2008 recession, the worst since the great depression, didn't.
>>>>
>>>>>>> and the housing boom is the only game in town.
>>>>
>>>>>> Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually
>>>>>> manage. And the boom has come off for quite a
>>>>>> while now in Sydney, Melburg, Perth and BrizVegas.
>>>>
>>>>> It's not dead yet,
>>>>
>>>>It won't ever be dead, you watch.
>>>>
>>>>> and we'll see if the goons in power will
>>>>> lower interest rates still further to maintain
>>>>> the Boom, AND their investments in it.
>>>>
>>>>Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
>>>>
>>>>> Bad luck about rising interest rates overseas though.
>>>>
>>>>Ours are already higher than theirs, you pig ignorant clown.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Oz wages are spent overseas
>>>>
>>>>>> Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
>>>>
>>>>> ...uh, it was a little boy who saw the Emperor had no clothes.
>>>>
>>>>Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
>>>>
>>>>>>> and investment income is miniscule.
>>>>
>>>>>> Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
>>>>
>>>>> ...uh, it was a little boy who saw the Emperor had no clothes.
>>>>
>>>>Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Only a recession can alter the spendthrift thinking.
>>>>
>>>>>> Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Just wait and see.
>>>>
>>>>>> We've seen, we didn't even get a recession when
>>>>>> most of the world financial system imploded
>>>>>> spectacularly and NOT ONE retail bank imploded
>>>>>> here or even needed  to be bailed out either.
>>>>
>>>>>>> A hard rain's gonna fall;
>>>>
>>>>>> Fools claimed that in 2008, didn't happen here.
>>>>
>>>>>>> something wicked this way comes;
>>>>>>> the music's gonna stop; etc.
>>>>
>>>>>> Only in your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasyland.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Wake up Oz!
>>>>
>>>>>> Go back to sleep, stupid.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thrift is the only way, tried and proved.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage, and that's saying 
>>>>>>>>>> something.
>>
>><reams of the shit you always end up with
>>when you have got done like a fucking dinner,
>>as you always are, flushed where it belongs>

> Why do I imagine you're up to you ears in debt,

There you go, face down in the mud, as always.
No debt what so ever to anyone and havent had
any debt what so ever for more than 50 fucking
years and the last of it was only because the NSW
state govt used to flog blocks of land off here
for either cash or payments over 20 years or
something with a derisory interest rate charged
and I was earning far more in the stock market
on that money than the interest rate I paid,
so there was no point in paying it off.

> if not to a bookie then to some property-loans shark?

There you go, face down in the mud, as always.
I have only ever bet on the horses just once, on
the melbourne cup, when I came here for a job
interview. And I won that bet and got the job too.

> Do you think that kicked-upstairs geriatric at
> the Reserve Bank will lower interest rates so
> the goons in Canberra can get your vote?

Unlikely given that they hiked them in
the runup to one federal election which
the coalition won comfortably anyway.

> Wake up boy!

Go back to sleep, you silly clown.

> If I were you I'd get prepared by stocking up on tinned
> fish & bottled water for the looming apocalypse

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.

> AND I'd ferret out a fake passport to flee
> when the bailiffs arrive to seize your chattels.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.

> You have been warned.

We've all been wanked at by some drug crazed drunken clown, actually.
 

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Failures in reasoning Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2018-12-17 12:12 +1100
  Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-17 12:47 +1100
    Re: Failures in reasoning "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-12-16 18:25 -0800
    Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 15:51 +1100
      Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-18 09:13 +1100
        Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 12:16 +1100
          Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-19 12:27 +1100
            Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 14:15 +1100
              Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-19 14:56 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 15:49 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-20 07:36 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-12-19 12:53 -0800
                Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 14:45 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-20 15:58 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 17:23 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-21 09:50 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 15:16 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-22 09:51 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 10:25 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2018-12-22 10:47 +1100
                Re: Failures in reasoning "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 13:57 +1100
  Re: Failures in reasoning Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-12-16 19:56 -0800
    Re: Failures in reasoning Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2018-12-17 22:22 +1100
  Re: Failures in reasoning mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-12-17 04:51 -0800
  Re: Failures in reasoning JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 14:37 -0800

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