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Re: E = mc^2 : Einstein was not the author of course

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: E = mc^2 : Einstein was not the author of course
Date 2017-01-08 07:21 +0100
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Am 07.01.2017 22:52, schrieb Sharilyn Vore:

>>> But E = kT.  Thus energy is related to temperature.
>>
>> Nobody had ever questioned, that energy is related to heat.
>
> Another half-engineer. Heat IS energy, and nothing else.

Heat is not only a form of energy. One main characteristic of heat is 
temperature, while other forms of energy could be cold (like kinetic 
energy or stored electric energy).

To mix terms is not really a good idea.

'Temperature' has a certain meaning and that meaning would not fit to 
the definition of the term 'energy'.

It is related, but 'related' is not enough for saying it is equal.

Of course higher temperature of a certain substance would be equivalent 
to more thermal energy.

But without a specific substance the relation between temperature and 
thermal energy in undefined.


>
>> But heat and temperature are different things, too.
>> And temperature is not energy.
>
> What is energy then?

This is actually a good question (like all 'What is ... really ?' 
questions.)

>
>> Not really..
>> kinetic energy is the energy of a moving body with velocity v.
>
> That's work.

Are you trying to start  a contest for the most stupid misuse of 
physical terms?

TH

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E = mc^2 : Einstein was not the author of course Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-29 11:35 -0800
  Re: E = mc^2 : Einstein was not the author of course Demetrice Barren <teercere@tmerunin.tme> - 2016-12-29 22:28 +0000
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    Re: E = mc^2 : Einstein was not the author of course Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2016-12-30 10:00 +0000
      Re: E = mc^2 : Einstein was not the author of course Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-30 22:19 +0100
        Re: E = mc^2 : Einstein was not the author of course Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2016-12-30 21:27 +0000
          Re: E = mc^2 : Einstein was not the author of course Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-31 06:23 +0100
            Re: E = mc^2 : Einstein was not the author of course Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-01-02 08:16 +0100
              Re: E = mc^2 : Einstein was not the author of course Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-02 04:59 -0800
                Re: E = mc^2 : Einstein was not the author of course Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-01-03 04:28 +0100
                Re: E = mc^2 : Einstein was not the author of course Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-03 05:16 -0800
                Re: E = mc^2 : Einstein was not the author of course Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-01-03 19:25 +0100
                Re: E = mc^2 : Einstein was not the author of course Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-03 13:52 -0800
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                Re: E = mc^2 : Einstein was not the author of course Sharilyn Vore <inolr@nryowno.an> - 2017-01-09 21:22 +0000
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                Re: E = mc^2 : Einstein was not the author of course Sharilyn Vore <inolr@nryowno.an> - 2017-01-08 11:30 +0000
                Re: E = mc^2 : Einstein was not the author of course Sharilyn Vore <inolr@nryowno.an> - 2017-01-08 11:32 +0000
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