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Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

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On 6/7/24 07:16, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 07, 2024 at 01:14:16AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
>> In experimenting I've found a name clash, there are appprently two orca's.
>> one is a speech synth, one is a slicer for 3d printers I don't use.
> 
> Oh!  That sounds super relevant.
> 
> If you're not using the second one, where did it come from?  If it's
> interfering with your desktop environment, but you're not using it,
> maybe you can get rid of it.
> 
> That would be one solution path to explore.  The other... you're already
> exploring, so see below.
> 
>> Typing
>> orca in a shell locks the shell wo any output, for several minutes but comes
>> back to a prompt with a ctl-c, so I've NDC which was being executed.
> 
> "type orca" will tell you what the shell has chosen.
> 
> "type -a orca" will tell you all the places the shell sees it, in order.
> 
>> So I took orca out, which took gnome out. But now gnomes dependencies will
>> put orca back in. So now I can't run autoremove.
> 
> Install "equivs".  Read its documentation.  Read it a second time,
> because it's probably too subtle to get all at once.

Where are the docs, it doesn't come with a manpage? Buried someplace in 
/usr/share/docs? Found it, instructs are in the README-Debian file but 
quite sparse.  Looks like it could work however. Needs more 
coffee...Lots more.

Thanks.
> 
> Pick one of the example templates (mail-transport-agent is the smallest,
> so I'd use that one), make a copy of it, and modify the copy.  Get rid of
> the Provides and Conflicts, and replace them with a Depends: line that's
> identical to the one from "gnome", except get rid of orca.  Change the
> Package name and the Description to be something meaningful to you.
> 
> I'd suggest the name gene-gnome because it's a fun pun.

Interesting. and something I've not tried on x86-64 machines. I do build 
stuff on the arm64, but this looks different from making a buildbot or 
rt kernel.
> 
> Build your new .deb which depends on all the parts of GNOME except for
> orca.  Install it with dpkg -i.
> 
> Since the gnome Depends: line has versioned dependencies, your custom
> replacement probably won't survive a dist-upgrade, so be prepared to
> undo and redo this hack when you upgrade to a new version of Debian.
> 
Noted but short term memory will probably fail.

Thank you Greg.
> .

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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Re: about 10th new install of bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-06-04 12:30 +0200
  Re: about 10th new install of bullseye Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2024-06-04 20:20 +0200
  Re: about 10th new install of bullseye David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-06-05 04:50 +0200
  Re: about 10th new install of bullseye Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2024-06-05 08:40 +0200
    Re: about 10th new install of bullseye Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2024-06-05 12:10 +0200
    Re: about 10th new install of bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-06-05 17:00 +0200
      Re: about 10th new install of bullseye Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-06-05 17:20 +0200
        Re: about 10th new install of bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-06-05 17:50 +0200
          Re: about 10th new install of bullseye Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-06-05 18:10 +0200
          Re: about 10th new install of bullseye Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-06-06 11:50 +0200
      Re: about 10th new install of bullseye Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2024-06-05 23:50 +0200
        Re: about 10th new install of bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-06-06 04:00 +0200
          Re: about 10th new install of bullseye Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2024-06-07 00:00 +0200
            Re: about 10th new install of bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-06-07 06:30 +0200
            Re: about 10th new install of bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-06-07 07:20 +0200
              Re: about 10th new install of bullseye Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-06-07 13:20 +0200
                Re: about 10th new install of bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-06-07 14:10 +0200
                Re: about 10th new install of bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-06-07 14:10 +0200
              Re: about 10th new install of bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-06-07 13:40 +0200
                Re: about 10th new install of bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-06-07 23:30 +0200
              Re: about 10th new install of bullseye David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-06-08 00:20 +0200
                Re: about 10th new install of bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-06-08 01:20 +0200
              Re: about 10th new install of bullseye Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2024-06-08 03:00 +0200
                Re: about 10th new install of bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-06-08 07:50 +0200
                Re: about 10th new install of bullseye David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-06-08 09:30 +0200
                Re: about 10th new install of bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-06-08 21:20 +0200
                Re: about 10th new install of bullseye David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-06-09 00:10 +0200
                Re: about 10th new install of bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-06-09 08:10 +0200
                Snaps and Co [was: about 10th new install of bullseye] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-06-09 07:00 +0200
                Re: about 10th new install of bullseye Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2024-06-09 01:30 +0200
                Re: about 10th new install of bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-06-09 08:20 +0200
                Re: about 10th new install of bullseye "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2024-06-09 14:00 +0200
                Re: about 10th new install of bullseye Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-06-09 15:00 +0200
                Re: about 10th new install of bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-06-09 16:20 +0200
                Re: about 10th new install of bullseye Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2024-06-09 22:10 +0200
    Re: about 10th new install of bullseye BUT its not Bullseye, its  bookworm! gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-06-05 17:30 +0200
      Re: about 10th new install of bookworm! Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2024-06-06 00:50 +0200
        Re: about 10th new install of bookworm! gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-06-06 04:10 +0200
          Re: about 10th new install of bookworm! Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2024-06-06 04:30 +0200
      Re: about 10th new install of bullseye BUT its not Bullseye, its  bookworm! David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-06-06 03:00 +0200
  Re: about 10th new install of bullseye "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2024-06-05 19:20 +0200
    Re: about 10th new install of bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-06-05 23:10 +0200

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