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On 5/1/17, 9:32 AM, in article
de4dc4d3-9c79-4717-8529-51e6dd02b24f@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin"
<rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 11:14:26 AM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>> Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> Snit wrote:
>>>> Sounds like you have not read it. I know many of the lessons it teaches
>>>> are ones I would never follow, and if others did they would belong
>>>> in prison.
>>> 
>>> I have studied the Bible.  There are some aspects which cannot be
>>> understood by a natural man because the reasoning behind God's
>>> instruction is spiritual in nature.  But all of it is understood
>>> when God's creation is held under the recognition that God is God,
>>> we are His creation, that all people die, and that only God has the
>>> authority to set dates for our birth and our death.
>> 
>> The bible was written by different people over thousands of years, edited
>> and re-edited over that time, and is of course contradictory and a poor
>> moral guide.
> 
> You ascribe authority to a place it doesn't exist.

Well, nobody knows the specific authors... but it was written over multiple
centuries and edited repeatedly.

> God is truth, and He has all authority in Heaven and upon the Earth.  You
> suggest the enemy of God, or man in his fallen state, could in some way
> corrupt the Bible and prevent it from being maintained over centuries.

I note the fact that the bible has repeatedly been edited. Heck, even look
at the basics: the ten commandments... there is not just one version. And
many of the stories in the bible are taken from older stories.

> Such is not possible, for it is God's own word that was given through men by
> His Holy Spirit.  Because of that source, it will not be undone.

Yet there are different versions. When your beliefs are contrary to
observable facts then I think it is safe to say you will never support your
view. :)

> Those who still seek the truth in 2017 will find it, even in 2017, and even
> amongst the many traps and pitfalls the enemy has laid to ensnare those who
> will not seek the truth.
> 
> But all who press in seeking the truth with a pure and sincere heart will find
> it, because God will know they are doing this, and He personally will lead
> them to it so they can be saved.

A deity who wants me to do things to save myself from his wrath is evil.

>> With that said, there are many Christians who are wonderful people -- they
>> look to the good in the Bible and try to live morally despite what is in
>> their holy book. Heck, the current Pope seems mostly moral and decent.
> 
> Saved Christians are born again, guided from within by God's Holy
> Spirit.  They have spiritual life and are able to discern and understand
> the things of the spirit, so they are guided by God rightly in this
> world.  It means something to them, so they make it real in their life.
> 
> It is the reason they are different from the other people in the world.

You have a lot of pride in your views.


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use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 14:28 -0700
  Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 15:00 -0700
    Re: Saving (not files) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-04-30 18:47 -0400
      Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 17:01 -0700
        Re: Saving (not files) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-04-30 21:21 -0400
          Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 19:42 -0700
            Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 19:52 -0700
        Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 19:38 -0700
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      Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 19:42 -0700
        Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 19:49 -0700
          Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 20:01 -0700
            Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 20:52 -0700
              Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 06:35 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 08:14 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 09:32 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 11:05 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 11:21 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 11:54 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 12:11 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 12:23 -0700
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                Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 13:35 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:25 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 15:56 -0700
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