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On 5/1/17, 2:25 PM, in article
548e3ebd-57f2-462c-9426-6cd2a8b597ab@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin"
<rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 4:35:38 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>> Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> Snit wrote:
>>>> ...why would you expect me to follow yours?
>>> I won't draw you in, Snit.
>> 
>> You keep asking me to accept your world view
> 
> It's not a world view.

Sure it is.

> I'm asking you to seek the truth.

Your world view of what the truth is, though you cannot back it in any way.
Listen, I have had some fun with this but, truly, you are rather immoral in
this pushing of the idea you have the one "true" path. And then you want me
to take you as some sort of authority on the "true" path which you say you
get from the bible but you also show you do not know the bible well. When
faced with that you say to just give up on reason and logic... hardly
convincing!

Meanwhile you refuse to be open to the idea YOU can be wrong but you want
others to be open to the idea that they might. This is hypocritical of you.

To put this into context, though, while I find your actions to be immoral it
is not like you are threatening my family or even doing some of the things I
have talked about truly horrid trolls doing (contacting my employer,
co-workers, clients, etc.). You have made no insinuation you would even
consider such nonsense... so please do not take my noting your immoral
actions as a black and white world view where I think you are equaling such
nonsense: you most certainly are NOT.

> I'm teaching you that Jesus Christ is truth, and that the Bible is the word of
> God, is spirit, and is different than other books.
> 
> It's not my world view.  It's God revealed unto me spiritually.

It most certainly is your worldview... and it is one you push as the one and
only one anyone else should accept or they will be damned forever. And that
is just silly.

>> but the run when I ask you to
>> support it, giving nothing other than claims you get it from
>> the bible even as you show you know very little of the bible
>> and give no reason to trust it anyway.
>> 
>> Then you say I should just not use reasoning.
>> 
>> It is odd.
> 
> Flesh.
> Spirit.
> 
> The two are different.  You can't use an eye to hear, or an ear
> to see.  Each is of its kind, and perceives its kind.
> 
> The things of God are spirit, not flesh, and understanding of the
> things of God will not come from the flesh-based understanding you
> are seeking.

Comes down to you have an intuition or a feeling that leads you to your
worldview and you are happy with it. Cool! Seriously, it is different than
mine but I have no issue with that.

When you got to pushing the idea that your worldview should be mine, though,
you cross the line into immorality. It is not as if you are noting I am
being rude to someone and think I should re-consider my behavior or the
like, you just want me to adopt your worldview.

Nope. Not going to happen. And you are completely closed to adopting my
worldview (which I have not tried to push on you in any way).

Why expect me to be more open to your view than you are to mine?

>>> And if you do truly desire to know the truth, then
>>> hold on tight because the ride you're about to go on ... it will
>>> blow your mind for the rest of your life.
>> 
>> Can you show it will blow mine more than you learning about the
>> Invisible Green Dragon?
> 
> I can't. 

So be it. I am fine with that and will not threaten you with internal
damnation or suggest you will be eaten by a dragon or the like. But that is
what you are doing and it is wrong. You are being immoral (though, as I said
above, it is not like you are being grossly or heavily so... no black and
white world here).

> But my warning is that if you seek the truth God Himself will show you.

Would you take a warning tied to the Invisible Green Dragon seriously? If
not (and I am sure you would not) why should I take yours seriously? There
is NO reason. None.

Are you able to see that?

> And everyone who's been born again that I've ever spoken to states repeatedly,
> unendingly, at every instant where they have the chance:  "I cannot believe
> God saved me.  I cannot believe the change within me.  I cannot believe He
> would care any about one such as me."

Well, as much as you are acting immorally I do not see any reason why one
would not care about you! Is your view of your deity one where you find such
things surprising? 

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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