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On 4/30/17, 6:21 PM, in article oe62ca$iap$1@jstuckle.eternal-september.org,
"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:

>> You cannot affect change unless you move.  And the more people
>> move for what's right in this world, the more right things we have
>> changing in this world.
>> 
> 
> But you are doing a great job driving people AWAY from God.  Just like
> Satan wants you to do.

My personal view is the Bible is better understood, as a work of fiction, if
you assume it is written from the point of view of an unreliable narrator
and his followers. But that is just my view, and surely not the intent of
the authors. But whatever people believe is fine by me -- how they treat
others matters.

>>> This isn't the first newsgroup he has posted in, and
>>> Google doesn't care.
>> 
>> Everyone posts using a unique MAC address, and this particular poster
>> is using the same set of names.  And even if they flashed their network
>> cards often, the sources of those messages could be identified fairly
>> quickly by a deliberate search.  If, for example, it was some kind of
>> person intent on doing real harm to a CEO or leader of some nation,
>> those tools which already exist to track down such people would be
>> brought to bear to track them down.  We just need to encourage these
>> Usenet-related entities to act.
> 
> The MAC address is only valid for one link - the one between his
> computer and his ISP.  It is NOT forwarded to other systems.  And there
> are many ways to hide where one is posting from.  That's why hackers are
> so successful.
> 
> For instance - daily I get dozens of attempts to hack each of my
> servers.  There are several indications that it is the same person
> trying from different IP addresses - none of them his own, of course.

Still an easy (if not fully effective) way to stop this: Google could listen
to the complaints and kill the accounts. The flooder has noted in other
groups he has been kicked from many other services and that is why he uses
GG.

>> And if they won't act, then we need to move in and infiltrate their
>> organization and implement change from the inside.  And if that's not
>> possible, then we need to create an alternative which does enable
>> that kind of filtering so as to provide those who wish to be spam-
>> free an option which would then be spam-free.
> 
> So you are advocating illegal actions to stop trolling.  It won't work.
> And there is a solution - it is called a killfile.

That, too. And that is what I use. I do not see the posts any more but I
will admit I am not happy they are so heavily focused on me. Nothing I can
do about that though (the two people doing the flooding have been trolling
me for over a decade, the main one doing so without getting any direct
response from me in years... they are not exactly sane)

>> And if we can't move in that way for whatever reason, then perhaps
>> what's needed is new legislation to make it illegal to post spam to
>> widely published groups like this because it is a literal theft of
>> all of our machine and time resources.  We are harmed at large by
>> such large intrusions, and this is exactly why governments exist:
>> to protect the liberty of people against such intrusions.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Rick C. Hodgin
> 
> Yes, let's see you make it illegal for someone from China using a server
> in Brazil to post to a newsgroup server in California.
> 
> It ain't gonna happen.  Even if the legislation were there, no
> government is going to spend millions of dollars attempting to track
> down a troll only because he's annoying.
> 
> If that were the case, you would have been in jail long ago.

Agreed: but Google could look at the complaints I, and I am sure others,
have sent in and kill the accounts.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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