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Re: Why I dislike systemd

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Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> writes:

> Much of the complaining seems to come from the system administrators'
> corner. Veteran UNIX system administrators have wanted to feel they have
> the ultimate power over their systems. 

Never been a pro sysadmin or paid IT person, just former Unix user now
running Linux on the desk and the lap.  And I want to feel I have that
ultimate power over my systems.

> They don't really acknowledge the existence of black boxes. The
> system components are just that: components, and the system
> administrator is the divine being that moulds the system into his
> own image.
> 
> Now, systemd is part of a grand scheme to tie the hands of the system
> administrators. Instead of Super-Users, they are demoted into lowly
> operators, who are given very limited degrees of freedom. They hate
> that.

If systemd ties my hands like that, then I, too, shall hate it.

By analogy with physical objects, used to be that if you wanted to
know how something worked, you took out the screws and bolts, took it
apart, then put it back together [1], tightened the screws and bolts.
When they make devices that are glued shut [2], moulded in place,
assembled with destroy-to-remove snap joints or other black-box
tricks, you have to go to extreme, sometimes unsuccessful, length to
find out how something works.  This is an affront to all
right-thinking persons.

> [snip]
>
> Unfortunately, systemd does not replace the improvised mess that is
> init.d with a rigorous methodology. For example, who is supposed to
> write the systemd configuration file for the "postfix" MTA?

Mantra for the 21st century: Life-long learning is supposed to be
about learning *new* stuff, not about learning the same stuff over and
over as new  and putatively cool clothing/UI/experience-enhancements
are devised for it.  Word.

>  Improvising leads to nightmarish situations. 

Yeah.  I find my systems growing slightly nightmarish as I devise ad
hoc ways to defeat or subvert all the cool improvement crap that shows
up with every new release or version of almost everything.


- Mike


[1] Yes, there was the occasional pingfukkit, typically tiny or
    numerous spring-loaded parts that tended to end up in the far
    corner of the shop.  Experience taught you how to anticipate and
    deal with these.

[2] I recently found a device assembled with a screw which was
    apparently used just to hold it together with the glue set.
    Removing the non-functional screw still required defeating the
    glued housing. This actually cost *more* to do than just using the
    screw would have. Abstrads.

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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Why I dislike systemd Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-06-15 10:04 +0000
  Re: Why I dislike systemd Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-06-15 11:17 +0000
  Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-15 09:46 -0400
    Re: Why I dislike systemd RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-06-15 17:24 +0300
      Re: Why I dislike systemd Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-15 18:45 +0300
        Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-15 12:33 -0400
          Re: Why I dislike systemd Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-15 21:16 +0300
            Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-15 15:19 -0400
              Re: Why I dislike systemd Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-15 23:11 +0300
                Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-15 16:53 -0400
                Re: Why I dislike systemd Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-16 00:14 +0300
                Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-15 21:02 -0400
                Re: Why I dislike systemd Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-16 07:48 +0300
                Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-16 11:08 -0400
        Re: Why I dislike systemd Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-06-15 19:20 +0100
        Re: Why I dislike systemd Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-06-15 16:19 -0300
      Re: Why I dislike systemd Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-06-15 20:13 +0100
    Re: Why I dislike systemd Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-06-15 15:50 +0000
      Re: Why I dislike systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-15 12:14 -0400
      Re: Why I dislike systemd Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-06-15 17:18 +0100

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