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| From | Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: A Particle Model of Light |
| Date | 2016-01-06 01:03 +0300 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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Gary Harnagel to Anton Shepelev:
> > Do you really agree with Tom? I mean, have you
> > really found the said correction in Shtyrkov's
> > paper and can point the equation(s) into which
> > it has crept?
>
> No, because Shtyrkov doesn't give us that equa-
> tion. That's why I was asking about it.
Yes, I have read it but haven't had time to answer
the whole post. Shtyrkov calculates the ether ve-
locity using eqs. 7 and 8. What other equation do
you want? You seem to accuse Shtyrkov of something
not present in the actual equations he uses. And if
so, this supposed error has nothing to with his re-
sults.
> How can he get a speed from an azimuth variation?
The ether wind "bends" the path of electromagnetic
waves just as a breeze wound bend the path of a
sound wave. The amount of this drift is proportion-
al to the component of the ether wind orthogonal to
the radius-vector to the source, so the deviation of
the observed angle from the actual one allows one to
calculate that component Ver of the ether velocity:
sin(Aobs - Aact) = Ver/c ,
which is more complicated in the paper (eq. 1) be-
cause of treating latitude and longitude separately
and then converting them by eq. 4 into an azimuth.
Whereas the ether wind due to the orbital motion of
the Earth, if it existed, would have diurnal varia-
tions with a magnitude of approximately the orbital
velocity of the Earth, we should expect this devia-
tion to have the corresponding value. Shtyrkov says
his observations agree with this prediction.
> Note that 27 km/sec is outrageously large and con-
> flicts with all other ether "measurements."
In Shtyrkov's experiment the electromagnetic wave
travelled largely above the atmosphere and therefore
outside the zone where the ether is entrained.
> How can everyone else not see what Shtyrkov saw?
> One laboratory claiming results that conflict with
> everyone else is not credible for me.
Has anyone else used a light path through the near
space? To my knowledge, all other experiments were
performed on Earth, and often in basements, or when
the ether wind was screened by metal tubes and cas-
es.
> I'd have to see their data and a lot more, and
> Tom's analysis places in the spurious category.
Understandable. How many experimenters publish
their raw data these days?
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Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 14:49 +0300
Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-26 04:38 -0800
Re: A Particle Model of Light Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-26 15:06 +0000
Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 21:57 +0300
Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-26 13:17 -0800
Re: A Particle Model of Light Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-27 12:15 +0000
Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 15:40 +0300
Re: A Particle Model of Light Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-27 12:41 +0000
Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 20:11 +0300
Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-27 14:32 -0800
Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 22:05 +0300
Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-02 16:24 -0800
Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-01-03 12:57 -0600
Re: A Particle Model of Light John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-03 13:26 -0800
Re: A Particle Model of Light John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-03 13:13 -0800
Re: A Particle Model of Light John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-03 13:21 -0800
Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-01-03 12:26 -0600
Re: A Particle Model of Light Kathleen Winder <katwin@mcgatlin.org> - 2016-01-03 18:48 +0000
Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-04 05:29 -0800
Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 20:19 +0300
Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 11:15 -0800
Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 01:03 +0300
Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 17:28 -0800
Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-07 15:41 +0300
Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-07 05:02 -0800
Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-07 21:00 +0300
Re: A Particle Model of Light John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-01-08 01:04 -0800
Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-08 18:45 +0300
Re: A Particle Model of Light John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 08:33 -0800
Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-08 20:50 -0800
Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-01-05 19:50 -0600
Re: A Particle Model of Light Kathleen Winder <katwin@mcgatlin.org> - 2016-01-06 15:33 +0000
Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-01-06 12:40 -0600
Re: A Particle Model of Light Kathleen Winder <katwin@mcgatlin.org> - 2016-01-07 22:27 +0000
Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-08 19:15 +0300
Re: A Particle Model of Light Carmine Portacio <carpo@trilogybearing.org> - 2016-01-09 14:00 +0000
Re: A Particle Model of Light Carmine Portacio <carpo@trilogybearing.org> - 2016-01-09 14:02 +0000
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