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| From | Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> |
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| Newsgroups | de.alt.folklore.computer |
| Subject | Re: What's left of Usenet is here |
| Date | 2025-10-10 18:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10cbi9u$r8ve$1@solani.org> (permalink) |
| References | (7 earlier) <mkplcqFcmvuU1@mid.individual.net> <10c94de$pjjk$2@solani.org> <mkrl6aFmtbsU1@mid.individual.net> <10caiqo$3ulb4$1@dont-email.me> <mks9hmFq6o6U2@mid.individual.net> |
Am Fri, 10 Oct 2025 13:38:30 +0200 schrieb Hermann Riemann: > Am 10.10.25 um 11:15 schrieb Harold Winter: >> Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> wrote: >> >>> Am 09.10.25 um 22:02 schrieb Sebastian Barthel: >> >>> Die besten sf: 1984 und "schöne neue Welt" kamen ohne Weltall aus. >> >> Nenne ich auch eher Polit-Fiction. > > Was ist an "science fiction" science? Das es irgendwie manchmal doch vorstellbar ist, daß man das "bauen" kann oder daß die Naturgesetze es im weitesten Sinne irgendwie hergeben könnte (z.B. durchs Wurmloch zu fliegen) ?(.) Ganz im Gegensatz zu Einhörnern und krassen Krieger-Hexern, die per se Märchenfiguren wie Banshees und Poltergeister bekämpfen. 1984 und Schöne neue Welt sind da schon auch eher nicht die Prototypbeispiele für sowas. Klassiker sind da eher die 80 Tage um die Welt und Fünf Wochen im Ballon und die Nautilus. Ganz abgefahren sind so moderne Sachen wie bei Ghost in the Shell die "Ersatzaugen" oder die Computer der Sekte, wo die Leute sich per Hirn- Interface anstöpdeln. Sehr krass ist auch "Lucy" als Film gewesen und gerade bei der aktuellen Angstmacherei vorm Jahr 2027 und der Superintelligenz, die die Weltherrschaft dann an sich reißen wird, vielleicht auch ein empfehlenswerter Film. Science Fiction wird halt immer dann zu "science", wenn nicht völlig abwegige Konzepte darin vorkommen (wie Psi Kräfte und Telepathen) oder wenigstens nicht nur. Bei Besiedlung des Alls und Asteroideneinfangen und interstellaren Reisen war das besonders eindeutig. Geht prinzipiell - aber eben jetzt noch nicht. Vom Lesch gibt es ein sehr schönes Video (YT), warum interstellares Reisen auch später nicht gehen wird. Aber ... mal Abwarten, wer weiß was geht in 500 Jahren ... VG, SBn
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Re: What's left of Usenet is here Michael Kraemer <m.kraemer@gsi.de> - 2025-10-04 16:34 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2025-10-04 17:20 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Michael Noe <michaelnoeusenet@mac.com> - 2025-10-05 03:55 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Başar Alabay <alabay@gmx.net> - 2025-10-05 15:01 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-05 17:12 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2025-10-06 13:59 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-06 18:31 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-10-06 18:41 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-06 18:50 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-06 17:03 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-10-06 22:45 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2025-10-07 09:40 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-07 08:36 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-10-06 22:44 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2025-10-07 10:16 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2025-10-09 09:54 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Marco Moock <mm+solani@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-07 21:03 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-10-08 22:11 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-07 09:26 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2025-11-19 19:46 +0100
Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-11-19 20:12 +0100
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-11-20 10:22 +0100
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-20 09:35 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-11-20 19:22 +0100
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-15 11:49 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2026-06-15 14:44 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2026-06-15 20:27 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-16 08:07 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2026-06-16 18:48 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-11-20 19:21 +0100
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2025-11-12 21:08 +0100
Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-11-13 18:44 +0100
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2025-11-12 20:49 +0100
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2025-11-13 13:26 +0100
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-05 11:00 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2025-10-06 19:37 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Marco Moock <mm+solani@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-07 21:09 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-10-08 22:13 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-08 07:50 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2025-10-08 14:30 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-10-08 18:56 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> - 2025-10-08 19:26 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-08 21:53 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-11-01 13:20 +0100
Re: What's left of Usenet is here "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2025-11-01 14:53 +0100
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-11-02 11:14 +0100
Re: sf (was: What's left of Usenet is here ) Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-08 21:51 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-10-08 22:16 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-09 05:25 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Michael Kraemer <m.kraemer@gsi.de> - 2025-10-09 13:42 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2025-10-09 20:02 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-10 07:51 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Harold Winter <SJJADEWRWQAX@spammotel.com> - 2025-10-10 09:15 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-10-10 13:08 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-10 19:27 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2025-10-10 18:20 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-11 09:41 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-11 12:27 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Michael Kraemer <m.kraemer@gsi.de> - 2025-10-11 12:04 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-11 12:29 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-11 16:38 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-11 16:50 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-11 16:51 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-11 16:52 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-11 16:53 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2025-10-11 15:08 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2025-10-12 18:21 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-13 07:27 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-10-13 15:42 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Guido Grohmann <guido.grohmann@gmx.de> - 2025-10-12 18:15 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Michael Kraemer <m.kraemer@gsi.de> - 2025-10-13 12:19 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-10 13:38 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2025-10-10 18:12 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Michael Kraemer <m.kraemer@gsi.de> - 2025-10-11 11:49 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2025-10-11 14:00 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-11 14:14 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-10-11 16:23 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-11 17:24 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-10-11 18:13 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2025-10-12 15:06 +0000
Nukleare Salzwasserraketen und Generationenschiffe (was: What's left of Usenet is here) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-12 16:21 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2025-10-12 18:26 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2025-10-12 18:05 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2025-10-12 20:37 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Frank Nitzschner <nospam@nitzschner.de> - 2025-10-13 07:20 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-13 14:29 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-13 07:33 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-10-13 15:47 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2025-10-13 19:13 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-13 17:42 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-10-13 18:11 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2025-10-13 20:17 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-10-13 19:47 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-11 12:09 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-10 08:34 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenstein@gmail.com> - 2025-10-11 06:40 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Michael Kraemer <m.kraemer@gsi.de> - 2025-10-11 11:45 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-11 12:37 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Michael Kraemer <m.kraemer@gsi.de> - 2025-10-05 11:39 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-05 10:02 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Michael Noe <michaelnoeusenet@mac.com> - 2025-10-05 10:22 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-05 12:15 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> - 2025-10-05 21:29 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Michael Noe <michaelnoeusenet@mac.com> - 2025-10-06 04:54 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenstein@gmail.com> - 2025-10-06 05:08 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Marco Moock <mm+solani@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-05 12:20 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-05 10:22 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenstein@gmail.com> - 2025-10-05 12:53 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-05 17:10 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-05 16:25 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-05 16:51 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Marco Moock <mm+solani@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-05 17:12 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-05 17:30 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-09 07:21 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2025-10-09 10:00 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-04 18:57 +0000
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Bernd Laengerich <Bernd.Laengerich@web.de> - 2025-10-13 18:52 +0200
Re: What's left of Usenet is here Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-10-14 10:20 +0200
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