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  Time Must Have a Universe Equation "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 16:33 -0700
    Re: Time Must Have a Universe Equation trudi.schwander@gmail.com - 2016-06-19 03:22 -0700
      Re: Time Must Have a Universe Equation john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 12:15 -0700
        Re: Time Must Have a Universe Equation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-20 00:21 +0000
          Re: Time Must Have a Universe Equation john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 06:44 -0700
            Re: Time Must Have a Universe Equation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-20 19:30 +0000
              Re: Time Must Have a Universe Equation john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 16:24 -0700
                Re: Time Must Have a Universe Equation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-21 01:54 +0000
                  Re: Time Must Have a Universe Equation john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 11:55 -0700
                    Re: Time Must Have a Universe Equation HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 12:35 -0700
                    Re: Time Must Have a Universe Equation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-21 20:26 +0000
                      Re: Time Must Have a Universe Equation john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 16:30 -0700
                        Re: Time Must Have a Universe Equation john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 18:13 -0700
                          Re: Time Must Have a Universe Equation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-22 15:43 +0000
                            Re: Time Must Have a Universe Equation john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 10:33 -0700
                              Re: Time Must Have a Universe Equation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-22 18:53 +0000
                        Re: Time Must Have a Universe Equation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-22 15:29 +0000
        Re: Time Must Have a Universe Equation "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 12:49 -0700

#585570 — Time Must Have a Universe Equation

So how does it go.c is the face of the clock. LYs are how accurate?  TreBert

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#585661

On Sunday, June 19, 2016 at 1:33:19 AM UTC+2, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> So how does it go.c is the face of the clock. LYs are how accurate?  TreBert

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#585715

An atom's period is 10^-16 seconds.
A 'Cosmic Year' is 10^15 seconds.
Ratio 1:10^31

An Carbon atom's diameter is 10^-09m.
The Milky Way's diameter is 10^22m.
Ratio 1:10^31

Time is bigger for smaller things

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#585756

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> kooked:

>An Carbon atom's diameter is 10^-09m.

More like 70 pm.

>The Milky Way's diameter is 10^22m.

More like 10^21 m.

But so what?

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#585821

Michael
Protons on the other side of the
Universe are the same size as ours.
So what?

Consistent underlying structure.
What is that structure- according to YOUR
understanding- Michael?

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#585855

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael
>Protons on the other side of the
>Universe are the same size as ours.
>So what?

It would be expected if the laws of physics are the same everywhere.

I ask you: What does it matter if two ratios are within an order of
magnitude of each other?  Especially when they are not, because of the
incorrect sizes you used?  And wtf is the rotation period of the Milky Way
when it doesn't even rotate as a solid unit? (What is the rotation period of
our own solar system?!?!?) And where TF did you get that "rotation period of
an atom" from?  So, of the four numbers, two are incorrect, and two are
meaningless.

If I roll two dice and get an "8", then I roll two other dice and also
get an "8", did the first roll result cause the second? After all, they are 
the exact same value!!! 

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#585899

Michael
So the "Cosmic year" is meaningless?
I guess a lot of things are
meaningless FOR YOU

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#585933

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> tarded:

>Michael
>So the "Cosmic year" is meaningless?

Of course not. The cosmic or galactic year is the time it takes a certain
particular star, the Sun, to go around the galaxy once.

Some stars take longer to orbit once.  Other stars orbit more quickly.  
Just like planets in the solar system. What is the rotation period of our
solar system?

You mentioned the cosmic year back in January (Message-ID:  
<174a82a1-bf3b-4a4f-861a-b27f324f6311@googlegroups.com>) and I told you
what it was then. Why did you forget?  Too much Little Pharma? Do I have
to explain it a dozen more times before you catch on?

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#586041

Michael
So how do you know that other
stars take longer or shorter times?
Just the error on this number
is at least 10%.
I think you bullshit a lot, Michael.
Why do you do that?
Too many Big Pharma meds in you,
conflicting?

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#586049

john
Michael 
So how do you know that other 
stars take longer or shorter times? 
Just the error on this number 
is at least 10%. 
I think you bullshit a lot, Michael. 
Why do you do that? 
Too many Big Pharma meds in you, 
conflicting? 
---------

John bro you're really embarrassing yourself here. Stop 

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#586058

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael
>So how do you know that other
>stars take longer or shorter times?

We measure the individual Doppler shifts and compare different sections of
the galaxy to each other.

>Just the error on this number
>is at least 10%.

If you don't even know how different stars take longer or shorter than
each other, how do you know the error is at least 10%?

Did you just pull that bullshit from your ass or is Little Pharma talking?

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#586093

Michael
Have you timed any of those stars
for the 200 to 250 million years that
they give as the Cosmic Year?
Come on!!
Different parts of a wave move at different speeds,
Michael- does the wave break up?
Come on!!
You're talking out of your butt

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#586106

Michael
Star speeds on different sides of 
the galactic disc are ASSYMMETRIC.
You think they go the same speed all the
way around? Observation says no.
Why is that, do you figure?

It is because galaxies also PRECESS

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#586169

"Little Pharma", having once again taken possession of the mind of
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com>, speaks out thusly:

>Michael
>Star speeds on different sides of 
>the galactic disc are ASSYMMETRIC.

Nope. A galactic rotation curve has a star's velocity a function of the 
distance from the center ONLY.  If there were any such asymmetrical 
rotation, it would have been mentioned.

>You think they go the same speed all the
>way around? Observation says no.

You are making up crap again.  Observation says Yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_rotation_curve

>Why is that, do you figure?

Why is the speed the same all the way around? Probably because the mass of
the center galaxy is largely spherically symmetric.

>It is because galaxies also PRECESS

And once again we see the Power of "Little Pharma" over John's mind, as he
once again goes off into the weeds kooking about precessing spinny things.

Never have you explained the enormous violations of the laws of physics
necessary for this to happen, such as conservation of angular momentum,
where does the enormous torque necessary for this to happen come from, etc. 
etc.

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#586182

Michael
???????
"The rotation curves of spiral galaxies are asymmetric. The observational data from each side of a galaxy are generally averaged. Rotation curve asymmetry appears to be normal rather than exceptional.[2]"
From Wiki

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#586203

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael
>???????
>"The rotation curves of spiral galaxies are asymmetric. The observational 
>data from each side of a galaxy are generally averaged. Rotation curve 
>asymmetry appears to be normal rather than exceptional.[2]"
>From Wiki

As any fool can edit Wikipedia, it is a horrible reference. But the 
statement does have a reference which discusses lopsided halos as causes.
It also mentions M 101 as an example, and that galay is tidally distorted
by close smaller companion galaxies.

Now let's hear about the violations of the law of conservation of angular
momentum, and the source of the enormous torque causing precession. And what
problems precessing spinny things solve.

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#586166

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> tarded:

>Michael
>Have you timed any of those stars
>for the 200 to 250 million years that
>they give as the Cosmic Year?
>Come on!!

Have I personally timed the stars?  No.  Instead, I look up the works of
others, and I see that spiral galaxies such as the Milky Way have a galaxy
rotation curve where the star's velocity is a function of a star's distance
from the center.  Typically for stars close to the center the speed is
proportional to the distance, almost solid body style rotation like a record
o a record player, but stars not close to the center (such as our Sun) have
an almost constant velocity, meaning that part of the galaxy does NOT rotate
as a unit. A star twice as far out as a second star takes twice as long to
go around the center once as the second star.

The Galactic Year or Cosmic Year refers to one single star - our sun.  Just
like if we talk about a "year" it refers to how long it takes our Earth to
go around the sun, not how long it takes Saturn to do so.

>Different parts of a wave move at different speeds,
>Michael- does the wave break up?
>Come on!!
>You're talking out of your butt

The arms of a spiral galaxy are standing waves, not solid objects.  
Individual stars move in and out of the arms as they orbit, but they
spend more time in the arms than out of them.  This means the areas of
the galaxy corresponding to the arms are brighter than between the arms,
because of more stars per unit volume.

Look at the animation at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_rotation_curve
the right side galaxy.  It is how real galaxies are observed to rotate.
Notice how stars move into and out of the arms.  In fact, the arms
themselves don't rotate at all!

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#586051

On Sunday, June 19, 2016 at 12:15:10 PM UTC-7, john wrote:
> An atom's period is 10^-16 seconds.
> A 'Cosmic Year' is 10^15 seconds.
> Ratio 1:10^31
> 
> An Carbon atom's diameter is 10^-09m.
> The Milky Way's diameter is 10^22m.
> Ratio 1:10^31
> 
> Time is bigger for smaller things

Time started infinite and will be eternal in the quantum realm.With Treb's help I will post all new thoughts on QM TIME soon TReBert

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