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| First post | 2018-08-28 02:09 -0700 |
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The Quark Religion alal65536@gmail.com - 2018-08-28 02:09 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-28 02:30 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion alal65536@gmail.com - 2018-08-28 04:04 -0700
The Quark Religion john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 05:25 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 09:55 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-08-28 10:25 -0700
Re:The Quark Religion Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-08-28 14:36 +0200
Re:The Quark Religion john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 06:11 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-28 11:07 -0500
Re: The Quark Religion alal65536@gmail.com - 2018-08-29 03:42 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-29 09:29 -0500
Re: The Quark Religion alal65536@gmail.com - 2018-08-29 07:53 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-29 10:18 -0500
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-08-30 00:36 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion alal65536@gmail.com - 2018-08-29 03:30 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 13:12 +0000
Re: The Quark Religion john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 06:26 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 13:40 +0000
Re: The Quark Religion john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 06:55 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 14:58 +0000
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-28 08:35 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-29 14:25 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-29 15:16 -0700
The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-08-29 15:56 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-29 16:09 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-29 16:15 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-08-29 17:54 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-29 22:46 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-30 15:29 +0000
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-08-30 16:05 -0700
The Quark Religion john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-30 02:13 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-30 15:29 +0000
Re: The Quark Religion john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-30 08:35 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-30 16:18 +0000
Re: The Quark Religion "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-30 01:12 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-30 02:05 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-30 02:09 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-30 06:20 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-30 14:45 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-30 16:37 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-08-30 20:05 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-30 20:12 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-30 21:58 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-30 23:27 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-30 23:18 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-08-30 23:53 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-31 00:31 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-31 00:56 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 04:40 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-31 17:54 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 23:02 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-31 23:32 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-01 02:38 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-31 19:46 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-09-01 16:39 +1000
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-01 02:29 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-09-01 19:36 +1000
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-01 03:31 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-09-02 09:21 +1000
Re: The Quark Religion mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-01 16:25 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 16:37 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-09-02 10:56 +1000
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 18:50 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 02:11 -0400
Re: The Quark Religion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-09-02 16:57 +1000
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 04:14 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-02 06:52 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-02 12:25 -0500
Re: The Quark Religion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-09-03 08:42 +1000
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-02 19:40 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-02 19:36 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-02 02:14 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-02 02:19 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-09-02 10:19 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-02 19:30 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-09-02 19:54 +1000
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-02 06:49 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-09-03 08:44 +1000
Re: The Quark Religion poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-02 19:51 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 13:52 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-09-02 14:18 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-09-03 08:46 +1000
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 15:50 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-09-03 09:11 +1000
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 17:23 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-09-03 11:55 +1000
Re: The Quark Religion benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 09:59 -0400
Re: The Quark Religion "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 11:09 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-09-03 18:02 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-09-04 12:09 +1000
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 05:24 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 05:41 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 06:29 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 12:47 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-09-04 12:57 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 15:07 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 00:02 +0000
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 17:06 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 00:33 +0000
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 17:59 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:04 +0000
Re: The Quark Religion john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 07:00 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 10:28 -0400
Re: The Quark Religion Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 15:51 +0000
Re: The Quark Religion benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:17 -0400
Re: The Quark Religion Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 19:48 +0000
Re: The Quark Religion Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 15:51 +0000
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 16:58 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:30 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 18:06 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 20:15 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 20:53 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-05 21:00 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-06 08:21 -0500
Re: The Quark Religion benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 10:38 -0400
Re: The Quark Religion Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 16:52 +0000
Re: The Quark Religion john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 12:39 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:44 +0000
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 17:13 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 09:16 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-05 16:32 +0000
Re: The Quark Religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-06 08:23 -0500
Re: The Quark Religion mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-05 20:23 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-09-05 08:33 +1000
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 16:52 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 10:56 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-09-07 11:17 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 03:04 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 17:41 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-09-03 11:56 +1000
Re: The Quark Religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-02 23:16 -0500
Re: The Quark Religion mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-02 19:17 -0700
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Re: The Quark Religion "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-09-03 17:59 -0700
Re: The Quark Religion "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-09-02 20:08 -0700
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 13:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmok8g$nav$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #701156 |
Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 10:33:17 UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Toxic cretinism is what e=mcc is all about. >>>> >>> >>> Anything that makes no sense to a competent engineer must be wrong, so >>> sayeth the self-righteous engineer. >>> >> >> Elaborating: >> >> Any theory that makes no sense to a competent engineer must be wrong, >> because it is incomprehensible. > > Yes, because making something scientific incomprehensible to a competent > engineer must involve mumbo-jumbo - and so, has to be wrong. lol. As I thought. > >> Any theory that yields no practical everyday device is wrong, because it is >> useless. > > No. A valid theory will have practical value sooner or later, when > sufficient advances are made in related areas; and the true scientific > and rational spirit triumphs over the dishonest and irrational attitudes. > > Theories, based upon pure imagination and no factual basis; or theories > that have internal logical contradictions such as construing appearance > as reality; must be dismissed. Like, the theory that a stick actually > bends when it is placed in water, and straightens when it comes out, has to be rejected. > >> Any theory beyond Newton and Maxwell is wrong, because it is unnecessary. > > No. It is necessary to know of the atomic nucleus, electronics and > semiconductors, queuing issues, superconductivity, and then construct > theories based upon experiments that are sensible and practical; while > rejecting old theories that are outdated and nonsensical. I notice that you mention things that involve quantum mechanics, like atomic nuclei, electronics, semiconductors, superconductors. Several of these involved Nobel prizes for the leaps forward in understanding due to quantum mechanics. But you said quantum mechanics was incomprehensible to you, an engineer, and therefore wrong. >> >> Any theory that consumes resources away from an engineer’s pet project is >> wrong, because it is misdirected. > > No. Not any theory, but theories based upon false premises, upon which > enormous funds have already been wasted for no practical results, must > not be funded any more. See number two above, where you said valid theories will have practical value sooner or later. How long should one wait? Oh let’s see... quantum mechanics, with applications in lasers, semiconductors, electronics, optical devices, chemistry, and so on and so on.... >> >> Have I got the MRE (Mantra of the Retired Engineer) down right? > > Let me see. About 25%. I think I have you retired engineers pegged. > > Cheers, > Arindam Banerjee >> >> -- >> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 07:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b5af70fb-d0e5-4095-abc3-3ffe87322450@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #701200 |
Odd “I think I have you retired engineers pegged. ” Says the guy who thinks ‘gravitons’ emanate from matter and ‘swarm’ to produce pull.
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| From | benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 10:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pmop7c$118t$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #701201 |
On 9/5/2018 10:00 AM, john wrote: > Odd > “I think I have you retired engineers pegged. ” > > Says the guy who thinks ‘gravitons’ emanate from matter and ‘swarm’ to produce pull. > "retired wood worker"
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 15:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmou2m$1anc$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #701202 |
benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote: > On 9/5/2018 10:00 AM, john wrote: >> Odd >> “I think I have you retired engineers pegged. ” >> >> Says the guy who thinks ‘gravitons’ emanate from matter and ‘swarm’ to produce pull. >> > "retired wood worker" > I’m not retired. You are, though. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 13:17 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pmp33j$1jke$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #701211 |
On 9/5/2018 11:51 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote: > benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 9/5/2018 10:00 AM, john wrote: >>> Odd >>> “I think I have you retired engineers pegged. ” >>> >>> Says the guy who thinks ‘gravitons’ emanate from matter and ‘swarm’ to produce pull. >>> >> "retired wood worker" >> > > I’m not retired. You are, though. > True, but unlike you my brain never retired!
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 19:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmpbuq$3p9$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #701224 |
benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote: > On 9/5/2018 11:51 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 9/5/2018 10:00 AM, john wrote: >>>> Odd >>>> “I think I have you retired engineers pegged. ” >>>> >>>> Says the guy who thinks ‘gravitons’ emanate from matter and ‘swarm’ to produce pull. >>>> >>> "retired wood worker" >>> >> >> I’m not retired. You are, though. >> > True, but unlike you my brain never retired! > Police officers found the vehicle still running, three hundred yards from the road, with its nose buried in a desolate part of the swamp, the driver nowhere to be seen. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 15:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmou2l$1anc$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #701201 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “I think I have you retired engineers pegged. ” > > Says the guy who thinks ‘gravitons’ emanate from matter and ‘swarm’ to produce pull. > You say “the guy”. You may mean the entire body of physicists. This isn’t a one-on-one difference of opinion. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 16:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a6fe2932-190e-46cc-95fc-505c3f72db8c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #701200 |
On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 23:04:22 UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote: > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 10:33:17 UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote: > >> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> Toxic cretinism is what e=mcc is all about. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Anything that makes no sense to a competent engineer must be wrong, so > >>> sayeth the self-righteous engineer. > >>> > >> > >> Elaborating: > >> > >> Any theory that makes no sense to a competent engineer must be wrong, > >> because it is incomprehensible. > > > > Yes, because making something scientific incomprehensible to a competent > > engineer must involve mumbo-jumbo - and so, has to be wrong. > > lol. As I thought. Nothing to laugh about, this entire and vast hoax that is e=mcc=hv pseudo-physics. It ia arresting the technical development of new motors based upon my new physics. I hold these pseudo-physicists to be the very worst criminals on the planet. They are directly responsible for the grotesque distortion of the mind in all areas; from the wrong and twisted view of the way the universe works; from the meanness with the wrong conservation laws of energy and mass-energy equivalence; the reduction of science to a dogma chanted by pretentions half-wits; all leadng to lack of progress in physics, now degraded mumobo-jumbo. Allocation of funds to the correct and productive scientific research, based upon my new physics, is absolutely necessary. But as these frauds put e=mcc=hv dogma as a priori for any funding, and as they control everything with money and power, there is at present no chance for my new physics to take off. My new physics will take off one day, leading to new motors that will take humanity to the stars. Hopefully, no world wars will be necessary for that to happen. > > > > >> Any theory that yields no practical everyday device is wrong, because it is > >> useless. > > > > No. A valid theory will have practical value sooner or later, when > > sufficient advances are made in related areas; and the true scientific > > and rational spirit triumphs over the dishonest and irrational attitudes. > > > > Theories, based upon pure imagination and no factual basis; or theories > > that have internal logical contradictions such as construing appearance > > as reality; must be dismissed. Like, the theory that a stick actually > > bends when it is placed in water, and straightens when it comes out, has to be rejected. > > > >> Any theory beyond Newton and Maxwell is wrong, because it is unnecessary. > > > > No. It is necessary to know of the atomic nucleus, electronics and > > semiconductors, queuing issues, superconductivity, and then construct > > theories based upon experiments that are sensible and practical; while > > rejecting old theories that are outdated and nonsensical. > > I notice that you mention things that involve quantum mechanics, like > atomic nuclei, electronics, semiconductors, superconductors. Unlike relativity, which is completely bogus and useless, quantum mechanics or rather quantum theory may used to explain some phenomena like photo-electric effect; and explain the generation and absorption of photons in terms of variation in the energy levels of electrons orbiting the nucleus. However antenna theory (developed later) can do the same thing, only better. I have found quantum theory and quantum mechanics perfectly useless to design antennas that radiate. It was my personal job for over 8 years, to design, develop and test microwave antennas for radar, IFF, space, navigation, TV, communication systems. That involved a lot of fundamental work relating to experimentation using sophisticated test equipment. Bottom line is that no antenna engineer has the faintest use for anything to with quantum theory. Several of > these involved Nobel prizes for the leaps forward in understanding due to > quantum mechanics. But you said quantum mechanics was incomprehensible to > you, an engineer, and therefore wrong. It was comprehensible enough for me to pass a full semester course in quantum mechanics. Along with all the rest of the students, I loathed this subject as it was totally against the rest of our engineering training. But we all had so much respect for the Nobel Laureates you talk of, that we thought it was all too great and powerful for our little brains. These days, my opinion of Nobel laureates is not that great. Age and experience does matter in forming such an opinion. The purpose of the Nobel Prize is not to block the human mind in any direction, I should hope, by creating certain dogmatic a priori situations like e=mcc=hv. But, I could be mistaken. It may well be another instrument for Eurocentric domination, telling chaps like me to follow their way or the highway. Me, I go on the highway, singing songs to my dog while moving fast in my car. Or, post here, in the ngs. The annoyance the Eurocentric sorts experience as a result, is a payment of sorts for me. > >> > >> Any theory that consumes resources away from an engineer’s pet project is > >> wrong, because it is misdirected. > > > > No. Not any theory, but theories based upon false premises, upon which > > enormous funds have already been wasted for no practical results, must > > not be funded any more. > > See number two above, where you said valid theories will have practical > value sooner or later. How long should one wait? Oh let’s see... quantum > mechanics, with applications in lasers, semiconductors, electronics, > optical devices, chemistry, and so on and so on.... Oh rubbish. Quantum theory does nothing in engineering. Lasers have to do with the coherence of the light wave front. Semiconductors work on the potential difference between the barrier junction, caused by difference in electron-hole mobility across the junction creating charge build up. Electronics is about electrons and use the Thomson-Heaviside force when in free space, and that force is electromagnetic. Optical devices all use electromagnetic theory relating to reflection and refraction. I knew a brilliant chemistry student who failed her quantum mechanics course - she never knew why she had to do it! Quantum mechanics is a useless theory at best - in combination with the devilish de Broglie hypothesis it is evil; as it attributes schizophrenia to the nature of light. Such schizophrenia, attributed to the workings of Nature, cannot but distort the human mind. So the distortion of the human mind, shown in the amoral manners of the ruling elites, from Bush2 to Weinstein, is the natural result of attributing schizophrenia to the workings of Nature. Once aether theory is brought back, following my aphorisms, then relativity and quantum will get the most deserved boot. Reason will return to Her throne, in Physics, and from that, spread all over. > >> > >> Have I got the MRE (Mantra of the Retired Engineer) down right? > > > > Let me see. About 25%. > > I think I have you retired engineers pegged. You think wrongly. I am not retired, only unemployed, having been hounded out of any chance of worthwhile employment by the devilish e=mcc=hv powers that be. But I do spend my time usefully, in part by washing those pseudo-types thoroughly, putting them through the wringer, and hanging them out to dry for the world to see. Cheers, Arindam Banerjee > >> > >> -- > >> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > > > > > > > -- > Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 17:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c12cd0cc-59e3-4861-9743-12ce9e9f1db1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #701277 |
Ari “of the ruling elites, from Bush2 to Weinstein, is the natural res” Bush admitted to seeing the first plane hit the first building ‘before he went in to read to the students’, ‘so it must have been on a TV inside the school’. But the principle and teachers met him at the front door, and the principle says he told her there was an accident. So the TV that he watched it on must have been in his limo.
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 18:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <06c9fa05-afb3-4261-a215-1ed4404c2b06@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #701279 |
On Thursday, 6 September 2018 10:30:19 UTC+10, john wrote: > Ari > “of the ruling elites, from Bush2 to Weinstein, is the natural res” > > Bush admitted to seeing the first plane hit the first building ‘before he went in to read to the students’, ‘so it must have been on a TV inside the school’. > But the principle and teachers met him at the front door, and the principle says he told her there was an accident. > > So the TV that he watched it on must have been in his limo. So your point is?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 20:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9cf31c56-32ba-4d3c-b1a1-2f93f808d1af@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #701282 |
Ari “So your point is? ” It was a private viewing
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 20:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2a5222b5-6df4-41bd-a608-c5fcaed5518d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #701305 |
On Thursday, 6 September 2018 13:15:59 UTC+10, john wrote: > Ari > “So your point is? ” > It was a private viewing In his car? I did some research and got the following info from wiki relating to GB2's car wrt TV screens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_state_car_(United_States) In 2001, for the first inauguration of George W. Bush, Cadillac no longer produced a car suitable for conversion into a presidential limousine.[13] Furthermore, the additional armor and amenities that were added to the state car by the Secret Service taxed previous presidential limousines beyond their limits, resulting in failing transmissions and short-lived brakes. The George W. Bush state car was instead designed from the ground-up by "an R&D arm of General Motors in Detroit" to meet Secret Service specifications.[12] "[I]nformed speculation" has President George W. Bush's Cadillac Deville actually based on the chassis of General Motors' line of full-size sport utility vehicles such as the "Chevrolet Suburban, GMC Yukon[,] and Cadillac Escalade." This "Deville" featured 5-inch (130 mm) armored doors, and "bulletproof glass so thick it blocks out parts of the light spectrum." Rumored components of the car were sealed passenger compartments with their own air supply, run-flat tires, and a 454-cubic-inch (7,440 cm3) engine.[13] Confirmed accessories include "an integrated 10-disc CD changer, a foldaway desktop[,] and reclining rear seats with massaging, adaptive cushions."[4] This presidential state car was estimated to weigh approximately 14,000 pounds (6,400 kg).[13] Bush's presidential state car was nicknamed "The Beast", a name that persisted through the presidency of Barack Obama. When traveling, President Bush took along two of the armored limousines (flown by either C-5 or C-17), one for use and one for backup. This proved fortuitous during a 2007 trip to Rome where one of the presidential state cars stalled for five minutes on a Roman street; the car started back up, but was replaced with the backup limousine after President Bush reached his destination.[2] Sometimes, President Bush would instead use vehicles already present at his destination such as embassy motor pool cars or military assets, rather than transporting the presidential state car. The president never used non-American-governmental vehicles when overseas.[26] *** No mention of TV screens there as you suggest. Again, what exactly are you trying to say? Do you support the conspiracy theory/fact?
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 21:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0f9ce0cb-044b-4767-a7dd-d6db52453ae9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #701309 |
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 8:53:14 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > On Thursday, 6 September 2018 13:15:59 UTC+10, john wrote: > > Ari > > “So your point is? ” > > It was a private viewing > > In his car? I did some research and got the following info from wiki relating to GB2's car wrt TV screens: > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_state_car_(United_States) > > In 2001, for the first inauguration of George W. Bush, Cadillac no longer produced a car suitable for conversion into a presidential limousine.[13] Furthermore, the additional armor and amenities that were added to the state car by the Secret Service taxed previous presidential limousines beyond their limits, resulting in failing transmissions and short-lived brakes. The George W. Bush state car was instead designed from the ground-up by "an R&D arm of General Motors in Detroit" to meet Secret Service specifications.[12] "[I]nformed speculation" has President George W. Bush's Cadillac Deville actually based on the chassis of General Motors' line of full-size sport utility vehicles such as the "Chevrolet Suburban, GMC Yukon[,] and Cadillac Escalade." This "Deville" featured 5-inch (130 mm) armored doors, and "bulletproof glass so thick it blocks out parts of the light spectrum." Rumored components of the car were sealed passenger compartments with their own air supply, run-flat tires, and a 454-cubic-inch (7,440 cm3) engine.[13] Confirmed accessories include "an integrated 10-disc CD changer, a foldaway desktop[,] and reclining rear seats with massaging, adaptive cushions."[4] This presidential state car was estimated to weigh approximately 14,000 pounds (6,400 kg).[13] Bush's presidential state car was nicknamed "The Beast", a name that persisted through the presidency of Barack Obama. When traveling, President Bush took along two of the armored limousines (flown by either C-5 or C-17), one for use and one for backup. This proved fortuitous during a 2007 trip to Rome where one of the presidential state cars stalled for five minutes on a Roman street; the car started back up, but was replaced with the backup limousine after President Bush reached his destination.[2] Sometimes, President Bush would instead use vehicles already present at his destination such as embassy motor pool cars or military assets, rather than transporting the presidential state car. The president never used non-American-governmental vehicles when overseas.[26] > > > *** > > No mention of TV screens there as you suggest. Again, what exactly are you trying to say? Do you support the conspiracy theory/fact? Does technology make you smart Roy?
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 08:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pmr9l6$11k0$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #701310 |
On 9/5/2018 11:00 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 8:53:14 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: >> On Thursday, 6 September 2018 13:15:59 UTC+10, john wrote: >>> Ari >>> “So your point is? ” >>> It was a private viewing >> >> In his car? I did some research and got the following info from wiki relating to GB2's car wrt TV screens: >> >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_state_car_(United_States) >> >> In 2001, for the first inauguration of George W. Bush, Cadillac no longer produced a car suitable for conversion into a presidential limousine.[13] Furthermore, the additional armor and amenities that were added to the state car by the Secret Service taxed previous presidential limousines beyond their limits, resulting in failing transmissions and short-lived brakes. The George W. Bush state car was instead designed from the ground-up by "an R&D arm of General Motors in Detroit" to meet Secret Service specifications.[12] "[I]nformed speculation" has President George W. Bush's Cadillac Deville actually based on the chassis of General Motors' line of full-size sport utility vehicles such as the "Chevrolet Suburban, GMC Yukon[,] and Cadillac Escalade." This "Deville" featured 5-inch (130 mm) armored doors, and "bulletproof glass so thick it blocks out parts of the light spectrum." Rumored components of the car were sealed passenger compartments with their own air supply, run-flat tires, and a 454-cubic-inch (7,440 cm3) engine.[13] Confirmed accessories include "an integrated 10-disc CD changer, a foldaway desktop[,] and reclining rear seats with massaging, adaptive cushions."[4] This presidential state car was estimated to weigh approximately 14,000 pounds (6,400 kg).[13] Bush's presidential state car was nicknamed "The Beast", a name that persisted through the presidency of Barack Obama. When traveling, President Bush took along two of the armored limousines (flown by either C-5 or C-17), one for use and one for backup. This proved fortuitous during a 2007 trip to Rome where one of the presidential state cars stalled for five minutes on a Roman street; the car started back up, but was replaced with the backup limousine after President Bush reached his destination.[2] Sometimes, President Bush would instead use vehicles already present at his destination such as embassy motor pool cars or military assets, rather than transporting the presidential state car. The president never used non-American-governmental vehicles when overseas.[26] >> >> >> *** >> >> No mention of TV screens there as you suggest. Again, what exactly are you trying to say? Do you support the conspiracy theory/fact? > > Does technology make you smart Roy? > Arindam is already smart in technology. Roy Masters is in a cult called The Bronies. Roy is not a cult leader anymore. picture of Roy here; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BronyCon#/media/File:Bronycon_2014_cosplay_contest.jpg
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| From | benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 10:38 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pmre4s$19ub$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #701277 |
On 9/5/2018 7:58 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 23:04:22 UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 10:33:17 UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Toxic cretinism is what e=mcc is all about. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Anything that makes no sense to a competent engineer must be wrong, so >>>>> sayeth the self-righteous engineer. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Elaborating: >>>> >>>> Any theory that makes no sense to a competent engineer must be wrong, >>>> because it is incomprehensible. >>> >>> Yes, because making something scientific incomprehensible to a competent >>> engineer must involve mumbo-jumbo - and so, has to be wrong. >> >> lol. As I thought. > > Nothing to laugh about, this entire and vast hoax that is e=mcc=hv pseudo-physics. It ia arresting the technical development of new motors based upon my new physics. I hold these pseudo-physicists to be the very worst criminals on the planet. They are directly responsible for the grotesque distortion of the mind in all areas; from the wrong and twisted view of the way the universe works; from the meanness with the wrong conservation laws of energy and mass-energy equivalence; the reduction of science to a dogma chanted by pretentions half-wits; all leadng to lack of progress in physics, now degraded mumobo-jumbo. Allocation of funds to the correct and productive scientific research, based upon my new physics, is absolutely necessary. But as these frauds put e=mcc=hv dogma as a priori for any funding, and as they control everything with money and power, there is at present no chance for my new physics to take off. > > > My new physics will take off one day, leading to new motors that will take humanity to the stars. Hopefully, no world wars will be necessary for that to happen. >> >>> >>>> Any theory that yields no practical everyday device is wrong, because it is >>>> useless. >>> >>> No. A valid theory will have practical value sooner or later, when >>> sufficient advances are made in related areas; and the true scientific >>> and rational spirit triumphs over the dishonest and irrational attitudes. >>> >>> Theories, based upon pure imagination and no factual basis; or theories >>> that have internal logical contradictions such as construing appearance >>> as reality; must be dismissed. Like, the theory that a stick actually >>> bends when it is placed in water, and straightens when it comes out, has to be rejected. >>> >>>> Any theory beyond Newton and Maxwell is wrong, because it is unnecessary. >>> >>> No. It is necessary to know of the atomic nucleus, electronics and >>> semiconductors, queuing issues, superconductivity, and then construct >>> theories based upon experiments that are sensible and practical; while >>> rejecting old theories that are outdated and nonsensical. >> >> I notice that you mention things that involve quantum mechanics, like >> atomic nuclei, electronics, semiconductors, superconductors. > > Unlike relativity, which is completely bogus and useless, quantum mechanics or rather quantum theory may used to explain some phenomena like photo-electric effect; and explain the generation and absorption of photons in terms of variation in the energy levels of electrons orbiting the nucleus. However antenna theory (developed later) can do the same thing, only better. I have found quantum theory and quantum mechanics perfectly useless to design antennas that radiate. It was my personal job for over 8 years, to design, develop and test microwave antennas for radar, IFF, space, navigation, TV, communication systems. That involved a lot of fundamental work relating to experimentation using sophisticated test equipment. Bottom line is that no antenna engineer has the faintest use for anything to with quantum theory. > > Several of >> these involved Nobel prizes for the leaps forward in understanding due to >> quantum mechanics. But you said quantum mechanics was incomprehensible to >> you, an engineer, and therefore wrong. > > It was comprehensible enough for me to pass a full semester course in quantum mechanics. Along with all the rest of the students, I loathed this subject as it was totally against the rest of our engineering training. But we all had so much respect for the Nobel Laureates you talk of, that we thought it was all too great and powerful for our little brains. These days, my opinion of Nobel laureates is not that great. Age and experience does matter in forming such an opinion. > > The purpose of the Nobel Prize is not to block the human mind in any direction, I should hope, by creating certain dogmatic a priori situations like e=mcc=hv. But, I could be mistaken. It may well be another instrument for Eurocentric domination, telling chaps like me to follow their way or the highway. Me, I go on the highway, singing songs to my dog while moving fast in my car. Or, post here, in the ngs. The annoyance the Eurocentric sorts experience as a result, is a payment of sorts for me. > >>>> >>>> Any theory that consumes resources away from an engineer’s pet project is >>>> wrong, because it is misdirected. >>> >>> No. Not any theory, but theories based upon false premises, upon which >>> enormous funds have already been wasted for no practical results, must >>> not be funded any more. >> >> See number two above, where you said valid theories will have practical >> value sooner or later. How long should one wait? Oh let’s see... quantum >> mechanics, with applications in lasers, semiconductors, electronics, >> optical devices, chemistry, and so on and so on.... > > > Oh rubbish. Quantum theory does nothing in engineering. Lasers have to do with the coherence of the light wave front. Semiconductors work on the potential difference between the barrier junction, caused by difference in electron-hole mobility across the junction creating charge build up. Electronics is about electrons and use the Thomson-Heaviside force when in free space, and that force is electromagnetic. Optical devices all use electromagnetic theory relating to reflection and refraction. I knew a brilliant chemistry student who failed her quantum mechanics course - she never knew why she had to do it! Quantum mechanics is a useless theory at best - in combination with the devilish de Broglie hypothesis it is evil; as it attributes schizophrenia to the nature of light. Such schizophrenia, attributed to the workings of Nature, cannot but distort the human mind. So the distortion of the human mind, shown in the amoral manners of the ruling elites, from Bush2 to Weinstein, is the natural result of attributing schizophrenia to the workings of Nature. > > Once aether theory is brought back, following my aphorisms, then relativity and quantum will get the most deserved boot. Reason will return to Her throne, in Physics, and from that, spread all over. > >>>> >>>> Have I got the MRE (Mantra of the Retired Engineer) down right? >>> >>> Let me see. About 25%. >> >> I think I have you retired engineers pegged. > > You think wrongly. I am not retired, only unemployed, having been hounded out of any chance of worthwhile employment by the devilish e=mcc=hv powers that be. > > But I do spend my time usefully, in part by washing those pseudo-types thoroughly, putting them through the wringer, and hanging them out to dry for the world to see. If ever there was an ignorant pseudo-science type that needs washed and put through the wringer it is Odd. He is so determined to stay ignorant that he refuses to read anything that goes against his e=mcc religion. He is just like those church officials who refused to look through Galileo's telescope and then denounced him as a kook. This is as low in science as it gets. > Cheers, > Arindam Banerjee >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables >
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 16:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmrm13$1oei$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #701346 |
benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote: > On 9/5/2018 7:58 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote: >> On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 23:04:22 UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 10:33:17 UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Toxic cretinism is what e=mcc is all about. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Anything that makes no sense to a competent engineer must be wrong, so >>>>>> sayeth the self-righteous engineer. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Elaborating: >>>>> >>>>> Any theory that makes no sense to a competent engineer must be wrong, >>>>> because it is incomprehensible. >>>> >>>> Yes, because making something scientific incomprehensible to a competent >>>> engineer must involve mumbo-jumbo - and so, has to be wrong. >>> >>> lol. As I thought. >> >> Nothing to laugh about, this entire and vast hoax that is e=mcc=hv >> pseudo-physics. It ia arresting the technical development of new motors >> based upon my new physics. I hold these pseudo-physicists to be the very >> worst criminals on the planet. They are directly responsible for the >> grotesque distortion of the mind in all areas; from the wrong and >> twisted view of the way the universe works; from the meanness with the >> wrong conservation laws of energy and mass-energy equivalence; the >> reduction of science to a dogma chanted by pretentions half-wits; all >> leadng to lack of progress in physics, now degraded mumobo-jumbo. >> Allocation of funds to the correct and productive scientific research, >> based upon my new physics, is absolutely necessary. But as these frauds >> put e=mcc=hv dogma as a priori for any funding, and as they control >> everything with money and power, there is at present no chance for my >> new physics to take off. >> >> >> My new physics will take off one day, leading to new motors that will >> take humanity to the stars. Hopefully, no world wars will be necessary for that to happen. >>> >>>> >>>>> Any theory that yields no practical everyday device is wrong, because it is >>>>> useless. >>>> >>>> No. A valid theory will have practical value sooner or later, when >>>> sufficient advances are made in related areas; and the true scientific >>>> and rational spirit triumphs over the dishonest and irrational attitudes. >>>> >>>> Theories, based upon pure imagination and no factual basis; or theories >>>> that have internal logical contradictions such as construing appearance >>>> as reality; must be dismissed. Like, the theory that a stick actually >>>> bends when it is placed in water, and straightens when it comes out, has to be rejected. >>>> >>>>> Any theory beyond Newton and Maxwell is wrong, because it is unnecessary. >>>> >>>> No. It is necessary to know of the atomic nucleus, electronics and >>>> semiconductors, queuing issues, superconductivity, and then construct >>>> theories based upon experiments that are sensible and practical; while >>>> rejecting old theories that are outdated and nonsensical. >>> >>> I notice that you mention things that involve quantum mechanics, like >>> atomic nuclei, electronics, semiconductors, superconductors. >> >> Unlike relativity, which is completely bogus and useless, quantum >> mechanics or rather quantum theory may used to explain some phenomena >> like photo-electric effect; and explain the generation and absorption of >> photons in terms of variation in the energy levels of electrons orbiting >> the nucleus. However antenna theory (developed later) can do the same >> thing, only better. I have found quantum theory and quantum mechanics >> perfectly useless to design antennas that radiate. It was my personal >> job for over 8 years, to design, develop and test microwave antennas for >> radar, IFF, space, navigation, TV, communication systems. That involved >> a lot of fundamental work relating to experimentation using >> sophisticated test equipment. Bottom line is that no antenna engineer >> has the faintest use for anything to with quantum theory. >> >> Several of >>> these involved Nobel prizes for the leaps forward in understanding due to >>> quantum mechanics. But you said quantum mechanics was incomprehensible to >>> you, an engineer, and therefore wrong. >> >> It was comprehensible enough for me to pass a full semester course in >> quantum mechanics. Along with all the rest of the students, I loathed >> this subject as it was totally against the rest of our engineering >> training. But we all had so much respect for the Nobel Laureates you >> talk of, that we thought it was all too great and powerful for our >> little brains. These days, my opinion of Nobel laureates is not that >> great. Age and experience does matter in forming such an opinion. >> >> The purpose of the Nobel Prize is not to block the human mind in any >> direction, I should hope, by creating certain dogmatic a priori >> situations like e=mcc=hv. But, I could be mistaken. It may well be >> another instrument for Eurocentric domination, telling chaps like me to >> follow their way or the highway. Me, I go on the highway, singing songs >> to my dog while moving fast in my car. Or, post here, in the ngs. The >> annoyance the Eurocentric sorts experience as a result, is a payment of sorts for me. >> >>>>> >>>>> Any theory that consumes resources away from an engineer’s pet project is >>>>> wrong, because it is misdirected. >>>> >>>> No. Not any theory, but theories based upon false premises, upon which >>>> enormous funds have already been wasted for no practical results, must >>>> not be funded any more. >>> >>> See number two above, where you said valid theories will have practical >>> value sooner or later. How long should one wait? Oh let’s see... quantum >>> mechanics, with applications in lasers, semiconductors, electronics, >>> optical devices, chemistry, and so on and so on.... >> >> >> Oh rubbish. Quantum theory does nothing in engineering. Lasers have to >> do with the coherence of the light wave front. Semiconductors work on >> the potential difference between the barrier junction, caused by >> difference in electron-hole mobility across the junction creating charge >> build up. Electronics is about electrons and use the Thomson-Heaviside >> force when in free space, and that force is electromagnetic. Optical >> devices all use electromagnetic theory relating to reflection and >> refraction. I knew a brilliant chemistry student who failed her quantum >> mechanics course - she never knew why she had to do it! Quantum >> mechanics is a useless theory at best - in combination with the devilish >> de Broglie hypothesis it is evil; as it attributes schizophrenia to the >> nature of light. Such schizophrenia, attributed to the workings of >> Nature, cannot but distort the human mind. So the distortion of the >> human mind, shown in the amoral manners of the ruling elites, from Bush2 >> to Weinstein, is the natural result of attributing schizophrenia to the >> workings of Nature. >> >> Once aether theory is brought back, following my aphorisms, then >> relativity and quantum will get the most deserved boot. Reason will >> return to Her throne, in Physics, and from that, spread all over. >> >>>>> >>>>> Have I got the MRE (Mantra of the Retired Engineer) down right? >>>> >>>> Let me see. About 25%. >>> >>> I think I have you retired engineers pegged. >> >> You think wrongly. I am not retired, only unemployed, having been >> hounded out of any chance of worthwhile employment by the devilish >> e=mcc=hv powers that be. >> >> But I do spend my time usefully, in part by washing those pseudo-types >> thoroughly, putting them through the wringer, and hanging them out to >> dry for the world to see. > > If ever there was an ignorant pseudo-science type that needs washed and > put through the wringer it is Odd. He is so determined to stay ignorant > that he refuses to read anything that goes against his e=mcc religion. Ben, what do you get out of this kind of pandering to kooks? > He is just like those church officials who refused to look through > Galileo's telescope and then denounced him as a kook. This is as low in > science as it gets. > >> Cheers, >> Arindam Banerjee >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables >> > > -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 12:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4adb3b01-246f-4e02-8495-86f3513827d0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #701346 |
benj “He is just like those church officials who refused to look through Galileo's tel” I know, hey? Shoes keep dropping, but he’s sure it’s wind
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 15:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmri1n$1h59$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #701277 |
Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 23:04:22 UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 10:33:17 UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Toxic cretinism is what e=mcc is all about. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Anything that makes no sense to a competent engineer must be wrong, so >>>>> sayeth the self-righteous engineer. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Elaborating: >>>> >>>> Any theory that makes no sense to a competent engineer must be wrong, >>>> because it is incomprehensible. >>> >>> Yes, because making something scientific incomprehensible to a competent >>> engineer must involve mumbo-jumbo - and so, has to be wrong. >> >> lol. As I thought. > > Nothing to laugh about, this entire and vast hoax that is e=mcc=hv > pseudo-physics. It ia arresting the technical development of new motors > based upon my new physics. I hold these pseudo-physicists to be the very > worst criminals on the planet. They are directly responsible for the > grotesque distortion of the mind in all areas; from the wrong and twisted > view of the way the universe works; from the meanness with the wrong > conservation laws of energy and mass-energy equivalence; the reduction of > science to a dogma chanted by pretentions half-wits; all leadng to lack > of progress in physics, now degraded mumobo-jumbo. Allocation of funds to > the correct and productive scientific research, based upon my new > physics, is absolutely necessary. But as these frauds put e=mcc=hv dogma > as a priori for any funding, and as they control everything with money > and power, there is at present no chance for my new physics to take off. > > > My new physics will take off one day, leading to new motors that will > take humanity to the stars. Hopefully, no world wars will be necessary for that to happen. >> >>> >>>> Any theory that yields no practical everyday device is wrong, because it is >>>> useless. >>> >>> No. A valid theory will have practical value sooner or later, when >>> sufficient advances are made in related areas; and the true scientific >>> and rational spirit triumphs over the dishonest and irrational attitudes. >>> >>> Theories, based upon pure imagination and no factual basis; or theories >>> that have internal logical contradictions such as construing appearance >>> as reality; must be dismissed. Like, the theory that a stick actually >>> bends when it is placed in water, and straightens when it comes out, has to be rejected. >>> >>>> Any theory beyond Newton and Maxwell is wrong, because it is unnecessary. >>> >>> No. It is necessary to know of the atomic nucleus, electronics and >>> semiconductors, queuing issues, superconductivity, and then construct >>> theories based upon experiments that are sensible and practical; while >>> rejecting old theories that are outdated and nonsensical. >> >> I notice that you mention things that involve quantum mechanics, like >> atomic nuclei, electronics, semiconductors, superconductors. > > Unlike relativity, which is completely bogus and useless, quantum > mechanics or rather quantum theory may used to explain some phenomena > like photo-electric effect; and explain the generation and absorption of > photons in terms of variation in the energy levels of electrons orbiting > the nucleus. However antenna theory (developed later) can do the same > thing, only better. I have found quantum theory and quantum mechanics > perfectly useless to design antennas that radiate. It was my personal job > for over 8 years, to design, develop and test microwave antennas for > radar, IFF, space, navigation, TV, communication systems. That involved a > lot of fundamental work relating to experimentation using sophisticated > test equipment. Bottom line is that no antenna engineer has the faintest > use for anything to with quantum theory. > > Several of >> these involved Nobel prizes for the leaps forward in understanding due to >> quantum mechanics. But you said quantum mechanics was incomprehensible to >> you, an engineer, and therefore wrong. > > It was comprehensible enough for me to pass a full semester course in > quantum mechanics. Along with all the rest of the students, I loathed > this subject as it was totally against the rest of our engineering > training. But we all had so much respect for the Nobel Laureates you talk > of, that we thought it was all too great and powerful for our little > brains. These days, my opinion of Nobel laureates is not that great. Age > and experience does matter in forming such an opinion. > > The purpose of the Nobel Prize is not to block the human mind in any > direction, I should hope, by creating certain dogmatic a priori > situations like e=mcc=hv. But, I could be mistaken. It may well be > another instrument for Eurocentric domination, telling chaps like me to > follow their way or the highway. Me, I go on the highway, singing songs > to my dog while moving fast in my car. Or, post here, in the ngs. The > annoyance the Eurocentric sorts experience as a result, is a payment of sorts for me. > >>>> >>>> Any theory that consumes resources away from an engineer’s pet project is >>>> wrong, because it is misdirected. >>> >>> No. Not any theory, but theories based upon false premises, upon which >>> enormous funds have already been wasted for no practical results, must >>> not be funded any more. >> >> See number two above, where you said valid theories will have practical >> value sooner or later. How long should one wait? Oh let’s see... quantum >> mechanics, with applications in lasers, semiconductors, electronics, >> optical devices, chemistry, and so on and so on.... > > > Oh rubbish. Quantum theory does nothing in engineering. Lasers have to do > with the coherence of the light wave front. Semiconductors work on the > potential difference between the barrier junction, caused by difference > in electron-hole mobility across the junction creating charge build up. > Electronics is about electrons and use the Thomson-Heaviside force when > in free space, and that force is electromagnetic. Optical devices all use > electromagnetic theory relating to reflection and refraction. I knew a > brilliant chemistry student who failed her quantum mechanics course - she > never knew why she had to do it! Quantum mechanics is a useless theory at > best - in combination with the devilish de Broglie hypothesis it is evil; > as it attributes schizophrenia to the nature of light. Such > schizophrenia, attributed to the workings of Nature, cannot but distort > the human mind. So the distortion of the human mind, shown in the amoral > manners of the ruling elites, from Bush2 to Weinstein, is the natural > result of attributing schizophrenia to the workings of Nature. > > Once aether theory is brought back, following my aphorisms, then > relativity and quantum will get the most deserved boot. Reason will > return to Her throne, in Physics, and from that, spread all over. > >>>> >>>> Have I got the MRE (Mantra of the Retired Engineer) down right? >>> >>> Let me see. About 25%. >> >> I think I have you retired engineers pegged. > > You think wrongly. I am not retired, only unemployed, having been hounded > out of any chance of worthwhile employment by the devilish e=mcc=hv powers that be. I know about you. Delusions of grandeur combined with fantasies of concerted persecution. There’s a reason you’re not working, and it has to do with you. > > But I do spend my time usefully, in part by washing those pseudo-types > thoroughly, putting them through the wringer, and hanging them out to dry > for the world to see. > > Cheers, > Arindam Banerjee >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 17:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b0557d97-1cf9-40c7-88e3-784f19fafe4f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #701358 |
On Friday, 7 September 2018 01:45:00 UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote: > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 23:04:22 UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote: > >> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 10:33:17 UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote: > >>>> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> Toxic cretinism is what e=mcc is all about. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Anything that makes no sense to a competent engineer must be wrong, so > >>>>> sayeth the self-righteous engineer. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Elaborating: > >>>> > >>>> Any theory that makes no sense to a competent engineer must be wrong, > >>>> because it is incomprehensible. > >>> > >>> Yes, because making something scientific incomprehensible to a competent > >>> engineer must involve mumbo-jumbo - and so, has to be wrong. > >> > >> lol. As I thought. > > > > Nothing to laugh about, this entire and vast hoax that is e=mcc=hv > > pseudo-physics. It ia arresting the technical development of new motors > > based upon my new physics. I hold these pseudo-physicists to be the very > > worst criminals on the planet. They are directly responsible for the > > grotesque distortion of the mind in all areas; from the wrong and twisted > > view of the way the universe works; from the meanness with the wrong > > conservation laws of energy and mass-energy equivalence; the reduction of > > science to a dogma chanted by pretentions half-wits; all leadng to lack > > of progress in physics, now degraded mumobo-jumbo. Allocation of funds to > > the correct and productive scientific research, based upon my new > > physics, is absolutely necessary. But as these frauds put e=mcc=hv dogma > > as a priori for any funding, and as they control everything with money > > and power, there is at present no chance for my new physics to take off. > > > > > > My new physics will take off one day, leading to new motors that will > > take humanity to the stars. Hopefully, no world wars will be necessary for that to happen. > >> > >>> > >>>> Any theory that yields no practical everyday device is wrong, because it is > >>>> useless. > >>> > >>> No. A valid theory will have practical value sooner or later, when > >>> sufficient advances are made in related areas; and the true scientific > >>> and rational spirit triumphs over the dishonest and irrational attitudes. > >>> > >>> Theories, based upon pure imagination and no factual basis; or theories > >>> that have internal logical contradictions such as construing appearance > >>> as reality; must be dismissed. Like, the theory that a stick actually > >>> bends when it is placed in water, and straightens when it comes out, has to be rejected. > >>> > >>>> Any theory beyond Newton and Maxwell is wrong, because it is unnecessary. > >>> > >>> No. It is necessary to know of the atomic nucleus, electronics and > >>> semiconductors, queuing issues, superconductivity, and then construct > >>> theories based upon experiments that are sensible and practical; while > >>> rejecting old theories that are outdated and nonsensical. > >> > >> I notice that you mention things that involve quantum mechanics, like > >> atomic nuclei, electronics, semiconductors, superconductors. > > > > Unlike relativity, which is completely bogus and useless, quantum > > mechanics or rather quantum theory may used to explain some phenomena > > like photo-electric effect; and explain the generation and absorption of > > photons in terms of variation in the energy levels of electrons orbiting > > the nucleus. However antenna theory (developed later) can do the same > > thing, only better. I have found quantum theory and quantum mechanics > > perfectly useless to design antennas that radiate. It was my personal job > > for over 8 years, to design, develop and test microwave antennas for > > radar, IFF, space, navigation, TV, communication systems. That involved a > > lot of fundamental work relating to experimentation using sophisticated > > test equipment. Bottom line is that no antenna engineer has the faintest > > use for anything to with quantum theory. > > > > Several of > >> these involved Nobel prizes for the leaps forward in understanding due to > >> quantum mechanics. But you said quantum mechanics was incomprehensible to > >> you, an engineer, and therefore wrong. > > > > It was comprehensible enough for me to pass a full semester course in > > quantum mechanics. Along with all the rest of the students, I loathed > > this subject as it was totally against the rest of our engineering > > training. But we all had so much respect for the Nobel Laureates you talk > > of, that we thought it was all too great and powerful for our little > > brains. These days, my opinion of Nobel laureates is not that great. Age > > and experience does matter in forming such an opinion. > > > > The purpose of the Nobel Prize is not to block the human mind in any > > direction, I should hope, by creating certain dogmatic a priori > > situations like e=mcc=hv. But, I could be mistaken. It may well be > > another instrument for Eurocentric domination, telling chaps like me to > > follow their way or the highway. Me, I go on the highway, singing songs > > to my dog while moving fast in my car. Or, post here, in the ngs. The > > annoyance the Eurocentric sorts experience as a result, is a payment of sorts for me. > > > >>>> > >>>> Any theory that consumes resources away from an engineer’s pet project is > >>>> wrong, because it is misdirected. > >>> > >>> No. Not any theory, but theories based upon false premises, upon which > >>> enormous funds have already been wasted for no practical results, must > >>> not be funded any more. > >> > >> See number two above, where you said valid theories will have practical > >> value sooner or later. How long should one wait? Oh let’s see... quantum > >> mechanics, with applications in lasers, semiconductors, electronics, > >> optical devices, chemistry, and so on and so on.... > > > > > > Oh rubbish. Quantum theory does nothing in engineering. Lasers have to do > > with the coherence of the light wave front. Semiconductors work on the > > potential difference between the barrier junction, caused by difference > > in electron-hole mobility across the junction creating charge build up. > > Electronics is about electrons and use the Thomson-Heaviside force when > > in free space, and that force is electromagnetic. Optical devices all use > > electromagnetic theory relating to reflection and refraction. I knew a > > brilliant chemistry student who failed her quantum mechanics course - she > > never knew why she had to do it! Quantum mechanics is a useless theory at > > best - in combination with the devilish de Broglie hypothesis it is evil; > > as it attributes schizophrenia to the nature of light. Such > > schizophrenia, attributed to the workings of Nature, cannot but distort > > the human mind. So the distortion of the human mind, shown in the amoral > > manners of the ruling elites, from Bush2 to Weinstein, is the natural > > result of attributing schizophrenia to the workings of Nature. > > > > Once aether theory is brought back, following my aphorisms, then > > relativity and quantum will get the most deserved boot. Reason will > > return to Her throne, in Physics, and from that, spread all over. > > > >>>> > >>>> Have I got the MRE (Mantra of the Retired Engineer) down right? > >>> > >>> Let me see. About 25%. > >> > >> I think I have you retired engineers pegged. > > > > You think wrongly. I am not retired, only unemployed, having been hounded > > out of any chance of worthwhile employment by the devilish e=mcc=hv powers that be. > > I know about you. Delusions of grandeur combined with fantasies of > concerted persecution. The grandeur I find is about and from the Divine around us, which I try to communicate, as best I can, to all - including the surly bunch of malevolent creeps and cretins, whom you seem to represent adequately. This surly bunch of malevolent creeps and cretins, being also cunning and unscrupulous, have grabbed all the positions of money and power everywhere. They all have supported the wrong e=mcc=hv physics to the hilt. Naturally they won't take kindly to being exposed as accomplices to that extraordinary fraud. The Gods and Goddesses and the world's commoners protect me, so they haven't managed to do much harm to me so far, apart from hounding me out of employment. > There’s a reason you’re not working, and it has to do with you. Of course it has to do with me. I do not compromise. It is much better to be unemployed than being forced to work for the greater glory of the malevolent creeps and cretins. Far more honourable; and ultimately, beneficial. Of course, it helps when one has enough hard-earned money to survive. I am further blessed, by the support of my family. > > > > But I do spend my time usefully, in part by washing those pseudo-types > > thoroughly, putting them through the wringer, and hanging them out to dry > > for the world to see. > > > > Cheers, > > Arindam Banerjee > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 09:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <771ec265-db17-4fee-a114-62868123cddb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #701154 |
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 8:33:17 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote: > Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote: > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Toxic cretinism is what e=mcc is all about. > >> > > > > Anything that makes no sense to a competent engineer must be wrong, so > > sayeth the self-righteous engineer. > > > > Elaborating: > > Any theory that makes no sense to a competent engineer must be wrong, > because it is incomprehensible. > > Any theory that yields no practical everyday device is wrong, because it is > useless. > > Any theory beyond Newton and Maxwell is wrong, because it is unnecessary. > > Any theory that consumes resources away from an engineer’s pet project is > wrong, because it is misdirected. > > Have I got the MRE (Mantra of the Retired Engineer) down right? > > -- > Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables Guess I'm glad that I am still working! Not retired yet, Ed
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