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  Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused Bojana Kudryavtseva <bojkud@rtyn56h67i.org> - 2016-03-26 10:33 +0000
    Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 10:36 -0400
      Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-27 05:04 +0200
        Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-28 05:12 +0200
          Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-28 21:37 +0200
            Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused Ewan <iq49j@noemail.edu> - 2016-03-28 19:52 +0000
              Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-30 06:38 +0200
            Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-29 20:02 +0200

#380188 — Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused

Poutnik wrote:

>>> Liquid or supercritical CO2 is used as a polar solvent, e.g. for
>>> extraction of polar caffeine from coffee.
>> 
>> Interesting.
>> 
> And illustrating your statement about meaningless is not relevant.
> Being polar means either to have atoms with partial charges, either to
> be donor or acceptor of electron pair.

Men never went to the moon and probably never will.
 - Big Willy

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#380205

On 03/26/2016 06:33 AM, Bojana Kudryavtseva wrote:
> Poutnik wrote:
>
>>>> Liquid or supercritical CO2 is used as a polar solvent, e.g. for
>>>> extraction of polar caffeine from coffee.
>>>
>>> Interesting.
>>>
>> And illustrating your statement about meaningless is not relevant.
>> Being polar means either to have atoms with partial charges, either to
>> be donor or acceptor of electron pair.
>
> Men never went to the moon and probably never will.
>   - Big Willy
>
Of course they did! Faked TV moon landing doesn't mean nobody ever went 
there!  Trust me.

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#380237

Am 26.03.2016 15:36, schrieb benj:

>>>>> Liquid or supercritical CO2 is used as a polar solvent, e.g. for
>>>>> extraction of polar caffeine from coffee.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting.
>>>>
>>> And illustrating your statement about meaningless is not relevant.
>>> Being polar means either to have atoms with partial charges, either to
>>> be donor or acceptor of electron pair.
>>
>> Men never went to the moon and probably never will.
>> - Big Willy
>>
> Of course they did! Faked TV moon landing doesn't mean nobody ever went
> there! Trust me.

The purpose of media-fakery is to create a state of uneasiness called 
'cognitive dissonance' in the general public.

People know subconciously, they are lied at, but are not able to accept 
this. This creates the desired stress in the mind, which is utilised for 
mass-manipulation.

So people are told stuff, what their subconcious mind regards as fake, 
but their concious mind as truth. This state demands 'relief', and let 
make people follow any idiot, who promises to 'free' them.

(It also promotes the use of drugs, btw.)

So the pictures are more blurry than necessary, since people SHALL see 
the fraud. That is an essential part of the plan and a necessity for 
mass-manipulation.


TH

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#380304

Am 27.03.2016 05:04, schrieb Thomas Heger:
> Am 26.03.2016 15:36, schrieb benj:
>
>>>>>> Liquid or supercritical CO2 is used as a polar solvent, e.g. for
>>>>>> extraction of polar caffeine from coffee.
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting.
>>>>>
>>>> And illustrating your statement about meaningless is not relevant.
>>>> Being polar means either to have atoms with partial charges, either to
>>>> be donor or acceptor of electron pair.
>>>
>>> Men never went to the moon and probably never will.
>>> - Big Willy
>>>
>> Of course they did! Faked TV moon landing doesn't mean nobody ever went
>> there! Trust me.
>
> The purpose of media-fakery is to create a state of uneasiness called
> 'cognitive dissonance' in the general public.
>
> People know subconciously, they are lied at, but are not able to accept
> this. This creates the desired stress in the mind, which is utilised for
> mass-manipulation.
>
> So people are told stuff, what their subconcious mind regards as fake,
> but their concious mind as truth. This state demands 'relief', and let
> make people follow any idiot, who promises to 'free' them.
>
> (It also promotes the use of drugs, btw.)
>
> So the pictures are more blurry than necessary, since people SHALL see
> the fraud. That is an essential part of the plan and a necessity for
> mass-manipulation.

Example:
this is an iconic photo.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Aldrin_Apollo_11.jpg

What you actually see is a large disproportion between head (helmet) and 
legs.

Human bodies have a certain canon of relations, which e.g. Leonardo da 
Vinci depicted here:

http://www.art-leonardo-da-vinci.de/images/leonardo-da-vinci-vitruvianische-mensch.jpg

Now too large head and to short legs give the impression of 'cuteness':

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuteness

Which is something, the subconscious mind recognises, but what does not 
fit to scientific experiments on the Moon.

So we have a carefully designed image, that clearly attempts to bring 
the viewer into the confused state called 'cognitive dissonance'.


TH

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#380363

Am 28.03.2016 05:12, schrieb Thomas Heger:

>>>> Men never went to the moon and probably never will.
>>>> - Big Willy
>>>>
>>> Of course they did! Faked TV moon landing doesn't mean nobody ever went
>>> there! Trust me.
>>
>> The purpose of media-fakery is to create a state of uneasiness called
>> 'cognitive dissonance' in the general public.
>>
>> People know subconciously, they are lied at, but are not able to accept
>> this. This creates the desired stress in the mind, which is utilised for
>> mass-manipulation.
>>
>> So people are told stuff, what their subconcious mind regards as fake,
>> but their concious mind as truth. This state demands 'relief', and let
>> make people follow any idiot, who promises to 'free' them.
>>
>> (It also promotes the use of drugs, btw.)
>>
>> So the pictures are more blurry than necessary, since people SHALL see
>> the fraud. That is an essential part of the plan and a necessity for
>> mass-manipulation.
>
> Example:
> this is an iconic photo.
>
> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Aldrin_Apollo_11.jpg
>
> What you actually see is a large disproportion between head (helmet) and
> legs.
>
> Human bodies have a certain canon of relations, which e.g. Leonardo da
> Vinci depicted here:
>
> http://www.art-leonardo-da-vinci.de/images/leonardo-da-vinci-vitruvianische-mensch.jpg
>
>
> Now too large head and to short legs give the impression of 'cuteness':
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuteness
>
> Which is something, the subconscious mind recognises, but what does not
> fit to scientific experiments on the Moon.
>
> So we have a carefully designed image, that clearly attempts to bring
> the viewer into the confused state called 'cognitive dissonance'.
>

This picture is REALLY strange:

https://d1o50x50snmhul.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/dn17488-1_500.jpg

To understand the situation one should notice, that these dolls in the 
background are actually representations of the guys standing in front of 
the lander.

Now the problem:
the lander is 'real', as are the astronauts. But the dolls are smaller 
than the real astronauts.



Here is a picture from a training for Apollo 11 on Earth:

http://c7.alamy.com/comp/F4T3D3/training-astronaut-neil-armstrong-in-the-apollo-11-houston-tx-usa-F4T3D3.jpg

Here a picture of Buzz Aldrin:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Aldrin_Apollo_11.jpg/600px-Aldrin_Apollo_11.jpg

Now the head is larger and the legs are shorter in the second picture. 
This means, the picture was made from slightly above - but only the 
picture of the astronaut, not the ground.

The ground was photographed from a very low position, since the pads of 
the lander are relatively large (hence the camera was close to them).



TH

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#380364

Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am 28.03.2016 05:12, schrieb Thomas Heger:
> 
>>>>> Men never went to the moon and probably never will.
>>>>> - Big Willy
>>>>>
>>>> Of course they did! Faked TV moon landing doesn't mean nobody ever
>>>> went there! Trust me.
>>>
>>> The purpose of media-fakery is to create a state of uneasiness called
>>> 'cognitive dissonance' in the general public.
>>>
>>> People know subconciously, they are lied at, but are not able to
>>> accept this. This creates the desired stress in the mind, which is
>>> utilised for mass-manipulation.
>>>
>>> So people are told stuff, what their subconcious mind regards as fake,
>>> but their concious mind as truth. This state demands 'relief', and let
>>> make people follow any idiot, who promises to 'free' them.
>>>
>>> (It also promotes the use of drugs, btw.)
>>>
>>> So the pictures are more blurry than necessary, since people SHALL see
>>> the fraud. That is an essential part of the plan and a necessity for
>>> mass-manipulation.
>>
>> Example:
>> this is an iconic photo.
>>
>> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Aldrin_Apollo_11.jpg
>>
>> What you actually see is a large disproportion between head (helmet)
>> and legs.
>>
>> Human bodies have a certain canon of relations, which e.g. Leonardo da
>> Vinci depicted here:
>>
>> http://www.art-leonardo-da-vinci.de/images/leonardo-da-vinci-
vitruvianische-mensch.jpg
>>
>>
>> Now too large head and to short legs give the impression of 'cuteness':
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuteness
>>
>> Which is something, the subconscious mind recognises, but what does not
>> fit to scientific experiments on the Moon.
>>
>> So we have a carefully designed image, that clearly attempts to bring
>> the viewer into the confused state called 'cognitive dissonance'.
>>
>>
> This picture is REALLY strange:
> 
> https://d1o50x50snmhul.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/
dn17488-1_500.jpg
> 
> To understand the situation one should notice, that these dolls in the
> background are actually representations of the guys standing in front of
> the lander.
> 
> Now the problem:
> the lander is 'real', as are the astronauts. But the dolls are smaller
> than the real astronauts.
> 
> 
> 
> Here is a picture from a training for Apollo 11 on Earth:
> 
> http://c7.alamy.com/comp/F4T3D3/training-astronaut-neil-armstrong-in-the-
apollo-11-houston-tx-usa-F4T3D3.jpg
> 
> Here a picture of Buzz Aldrin:
> 
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/
Aldrin_Apollo_11.jpg/600px-Aldrin_Apollo_11.jpg
> 
> Now the head is larger and the legs are shorter in the second picture.
> This means, the picture was made from slightly above - but only the
> picture of the astronaut, not the ground.
> 
> The ground was photographed from a very low position, since the pads of
> the lander are relatively large (hence the camera was close to them).
> TH

Interesting reading. To me is not so much about that, but about things 
which should be there, they aren't. And things that are there and it 
shouldn't. I'm not talking about shadows, which could be explained 
variously, but physics and material objects discrepancies. Strange that 
nobody explain anything. Maybe they did land on the Moon, delayed or 
somehow differently, but they are saying the opposite. That it is not 
possible. What should people think then. Good post, Thomas.

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#380453

Am 28.03.2016 21:52, schrieb Ewan:

>>>>>> Men never went to the moon and probably never will.
>>>>>> - Big Willy
>>>>>>
>>>>> Of course they did! Faked TV moon landing doesn't mean nobody ever
>>>>> went there! Trust me.
>>>>
>>>> The purpose of media-fakery is to create a state of uneasiness called
>>>> 'cognitive dissonance' in the general public.
>>>>
>>>> People know subconciously, they are lied at, but are not able to
>>>> accept this. This creates the desired stress in the mind, which is
>>>> utilised for mass-manipulation.
>>>>
>>>> So people are told stuff, what their subconcious mind regards as fake,
>>>> but their concious mind as truth. This state demands 'relief', and let
>>>> make people follow any idiot, who promises to 'free' them.
>>>>
>>>> (It also promotes the use of drugs, btw.)
>>>>
>>>> So the pictures are more blurry than necessary, since people SHALL see
>>>> the fraud. That is an essential part of the plan and a necessity for
>>>> mass-manipulation.
>>>
>>> Example:
>>> this is an iconic photo.
>>>
>>> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Aldrin_Apollo_11.jpg
>>>
>>> What you actually see is a large disproportion between head (helmet)
>>> and legs.
>>>
>>> Human bodies have a certain canon of relations, which e.g. Leonardo da
>>> Vinci depicted here:
>>>
>>> http://www.art-leonardo-da-vinci.de/images/leonardo-da-vinci-
> vitruvianische-mensch.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> Now too large head and to short legs give the impression of 'cuteness':
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuteness
>>>
>>> Which is something, the subconscious mind recognises, but what does not
>>> fit to scientific experiments on the Moon.
>>>
>>> So we have a carefully designed image, that clearly attempts to bring
>>> the viewer into the confused state called 'cognitive dissonance'.
>>>
>>>
>> This picture is REALLY strange:
>>
>> https://d1o50x50snmhul.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/
> dn17488-1_500.jpg
>>
>> To understand the situation one should notice, that these dolls in the
>> background are actually representations of the guys standing in front of
>> the lander.
>>
>> Now the problem:
>> the lander is 'real', as are the astronauts. But the dolls are smaller
>> than the real astronauts.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is a picture from a training for Apollo 11 on Earth:
>>
>> http://c7.alamy.com/comp/F4T3D3/training-astronaut-neil-armstrong-in-the-
> apollo-11-houston-tx-usa-F4T3D3.jpg
>>
>> Here a picture of Buzz Aldrin:
>>
>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/
> Aldrin_Apollo_11.jpg/600px-Aldrin_Apollo_11.jpg
>>
>> Now the head is larger and the legs are shorter in the second picture.
>> This means, the picture was made from slightly above - but only the
>> picture of the astronaut, not the ground.
>>
>> The ground was photographed from a very low position, since the pads of
>> the lander are relatively large (hence the camera was close to them).
>> TH
>
> Interesting reading. To me is not so much about that, but about things
> which should be there, they aren't. And things that are there and it
> shouldn't. I'm not talking about shadows, which could be explained
> variously, but physics and material objects discrepancies. Strange that
> nobody explain anything. Maybe they did land on the Moon, delayed or
> somehow differently, but they are saying the opposite. That it is not
> possible. What should people think then. Good post, Thomas.

A common human produces about 50 to 100 Watt of heat.

Since the moon has no atmosphere, the excess heat needs to be 
distributed to the environment by other means.

But I cannot identify any system sufficient to distribute heat to the 
vacuum in the suits or backpacks of the astronauts.


Another problem is, that these suits should look more bulgy, since 
humans need a certain pressure to survive.


Aldrin and Armstrong were medium sized men, a little more than 1,80 m 
(my guess).

If we add something for VERY well insulating soles and the huge helmet, 
the entire astronaut would have a hight of about 2 m.

The puppets on the lander in the Washington flight museum are only about 
1,70 m high, hence too small.

But larger astronauts would not fit through the lander's door.


The lander is actually a two staged rocket.

One stage is designed to decelerate the craft from orbit speed, to allow 
safe landing (with v_sideways=0 and v_vertical=0).

The other stage has to do the opposite, to return the astronauts to the 
orbiter.

I have figured out, the craft had only sufficient fuel for landing (with 
the rocket equation).


The return maneuver was actually a rendezvous in Moon orbit, which 
requires tremendous precision for navigation in space and time. The 
lander had not enough means to measure its own position and that of the 
orbiter.

...


TH

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#380425

On 28.03.2016 21:37, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 28.03.2016 05:12, schrieb Thomas Heger:
>
>
> This picture is REALLY strange:
>
> https://d1o50x50snmhul.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/dn17488-1_500.jpg
>
>
> To understand the situation one should notice, that these dolls in the
> background are actually representations of the guys standing in front of
> the lander.
>
> Now the problem:
> the lander is 'real', as are the astronauts. But the dolls are smaller
> than the real astronauts.
>
>
>
> Here is a picture from a training for Apollo 11 on Earth:
>
> http://c7.alamy.com/comp/F4T3D3/training-astronaut-neil-armstrong-in-the-apollo-11-houston-tx-usa-F4T3D3.jpg
>
>
> Here a picture of Buzz Aldrin:
>
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Aldrin_Apollo_11.jpg/600px-Aldrin_Apollo_11.jpg
>
>
> Now the head is larger and the legs are shorter in the second picture.
> This means, the picture was made from slightly above - but only the
> picture of the astronaut, not the ground.
>
> The ground was photographed from a very low position, since the pads of
> the lander are relatively large (hence the camera was close to them).
>
>
>
> TH
>
>

Quite funny!
Pretending to think that normal perspective phenomena
in photographs are sign of fraud!

I bet there are several cranks that will buy it! :-D

http://tinyurl.com/hhlab9o
The real people on the right are smaller than the dolls!
An obvious fraud! :-D

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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