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Re: European Moon Village plan

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: European Moon Village plan
Date 2016-01-24 19:39 +0100
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Am 24.01.2016 18:17, schrieb Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn:

>>
>> The Chinese had been unable to find these flags.
>
> They were not looking for them and they did not have the right equipment in
> the first place.  There have been three Chinese missions to the Moon so far:
>
> Chang'e 1’s CCD stereo camera’s pixel spatial resolution was 200 m, and the
> orbiter took the images from a circular orbit of 200 km altitude. [1]
>
> Chang'e 2’s camera obtained images at a resolution of ca. 7 m from 15 to
> 100 km altitude [2] – still too coarse to tell a flag from a rock.
>
> Chang'e 3 was a lander and rover mission only.  It was planned to land at
> Sinus Iridum (“Bay of Rainbows”), but landed on Mare Imbrium (“See of
> Storms”).  The flags were planted during the Apollo 11 mission near
> Tranquility Base, on Mare Tranquillitatis (“Sea of Tranquility”) instead.
> For landing, Chang'e 3 did not orbit over Mare Tranquillitatis [3].
> Chang'e 3’s landing site is, based on the Google Moon map, about 16 km (or
> more) away from Tranquility Base.  The rover, Yutu (“jade rabbit”), had a
> maximum range of 10 km.  “Yutu traveled 374 feet (114 meters) on the moon in
> a zigzag fashion before a glitch ended its travels in January 2014.” [4]
> IOW, that mission did not come anywhere near Tranquility Base which would
> have enabled it to support your claim.
>
>
> [1]
> <http://wayback.archive.org/web/20120331032311/http://www.cjss.ac.cn/qikan/manage/wenzhang/2010-05-02.pdf>
>
> [2]<http://www.space.com/14536-china-moon-map-change-2-images.html>
>
> [3]<http://astrogatorsguild.com/?p=1217>
>
> [4]
> <http://www.space.com/28810-moon-history-chinese-lunar-rover.html?cmpid=514630_20150312_41994886&adbid=10152690360766466&adbpl=fb&adbpr=17610706465>

>> There are also sceptics of various kind and degree, which claim, that


16 eye-witnesses can't be wrong.

> The proper term for those people is “lunatics” ;-)

Well, this seems to be a danger, if you go to the moon.


> And they are still unable to explain how we can get reflections off mirrors
> known to be planted on the Moon during the Apollo 11, 14, and 15 missions if
> no human had ever put a foot on the surface of the Moon so far.
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment>
>
>> Also: ownership of land is not created by planting a flag pole there.
>> Usually you had to buy that land from the owner.
>
> If there is an owner (that you can trade with).  As regards outer space,
> there is not.
>

The Nasa had to register their property at the Lunar Real Estate Agency.

(That is right there, at the corner of Mare Tranquilitatis. Easy to find 
- or ask for the way.)



>>
>> Well, EU-countries had a problem recently with lots of refugees.
>
> They still have.

Well, depends on how you define 'problem'. Refugees are kind of annoyed, 
since Germany is actually cold in winter and life in a refugee camp is 
boring.

But that's about it.

Germans (on the other hand) fear to get killed, while asleep by 'Jihadists'.

Other fears are related to lack of jobs and affordable apartments, since 
refugees seemingly want to have, what many Germans are also locking for.

>> Maybe they could take part...
>
> Yeah, first throw their countries into chaos, then ship them off to the
> Moon…  It seems your stupidity knows no end.
>

I have not thrown any country into chaos. But apparently you are 
addressing Germany with 'throwing .. into chaos'.

But let me inform you, it haven't been Germans, who invaded 
Iraq/Syria/Libya (just to mention a few).

Second: 'taking part' was meant as an opportunity (for a career as 
astronaut), not as 'shipping off'.

(at least partially...)


TH

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