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| From | "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.usage.english, alt.english.usage, misc.writing, soc.culture.usa, talk.politics.misc |
| Subject | Re: 15 million fools |
| Date | 2016-01-06 20:09 +0000 |
| Organization | . |
| Message-ID | <op.yat195hk86ebyl@red.lan> (permalink) |
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On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 03:04:37 -0000, Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> wrote: > On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 22:16:58 -0000, "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 04:12:16 -0000, Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 04 Jan 2016 23:38:14 -0000, "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, 04 Jan 2016 22:44:47 -0000, Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> wrote: >>>> > >>>>> The world has endured meglomaniacs, psychotics, >>>>> sociopaths and outright lunatics elevated to positions >>>>> of great power far too often. It was a very bad thing >>>>> pre-industrial and these days is a literal world-ending >>>>> threat. >>>> >>>> But who gets to decide which people say who is a psychotic? >>>> It's all about your point of view. >>> >>> Uh oh ... now you're getting all philosophical - reality >>> is what the collective We decide it is. >>> >>> Sometimes true, sometimes not. >>> >>> And anyone attempting to be objective can spot a loonie >>> at 50 paces .... yet any large GROUP may not. Interesting. >>> >>> Now if you wish to discuss the extended meanings of >>> Platos allegory of the cave or the Buddhas remark that >>> reality is illusion, those are the hair-splitting quantum- >>> mechanics of the universe and our situation within it >>> and should be in another thread, probably another >>> group entirely. It's not really stuff humans can use >>> in their everyday lives anyway ... >> >> No, you're the one being philosophical. And you were correct in your >> first sentence, the collective decides what is wrong. > > They DO get to decide what's "right" and "wrong" for > their fellow humans .... but they don't get to dictate > what's real or not. Salt will be sodium chloride even > if every human is convinced it's made of compressed > pixies. We're talking about votes to change legal laws, not physics. >> All of them, not just the few that think they're better than >> the rest. > > Um ... do you have recurrent episodes where lots > of people say they're better than you ? :-) Everybody thinks they're better than everyone else, which is precisely why your stupid idea of having the sensible folk make the choices doesn't work, because everybody thinks they are sensible. >> In fact take any group of people and they'll always think they're >> better than the rest. > > There you go again ... maybe you should have that > looked into. Oh wait, the doc would probably think > he's better at medicine than you .......... I'm not talking about myself. >> So you can't pick any group and say they're correct. >> You must allow everyone an equal vote. > > No. Not always. Experts on a subject get more > votes than those ignorant of the subject. They shouldn't. Experts can be catastrophically wrong, just look at all the morons that believe in global warming. > "Equal" is a laudable GOAL, but sometimes there > are people who are "more equal" on some specific > set of issues. A few walking Googles are "more > equal" at pretty much everything. Alas they rarely > run for public office .... Are you Russian or something? >>>> The ONLY fair way is to allow EVERYONE to vote evenly. >>> >>> "Fair" got Hitler into power ... another crowd-pleasing maniac. >> >> Hitler was a bloody good leader. If we hadn't stopped him, >> the world would have been cleaned up quite a bit. > > The plot thickens .... Why do you hate Hitler? >>> "Fair" IS usually good. Not always good however. You are >>> looking for an otrhogonal system to govern a species with >>> decidedly unorthogonal behavior set - just won't work all of >>> the time. People are just *nuts* sometimes, but that's no >>> excuse to enshrine it in law, or in actions you can't take back. >> >> If most people want to be nuts, then nuts should be the rule. > > And now it's solidified hard as diamond ..... What have you got against being nutty? If 99% of the population wants to be crazy, and 1% wants to be sane, why should the 1% deny the 99% their fun? -- I go fishing; I catch nothing. I go to orgies; I catch everything.
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Re: 15 million fools Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> - 2015-12-30 22:19 -0500
Re: 15 million fools James Hogg <Jas.Hogg@gOUTmail.com> - 2015-12-31 09:22 +0100
Re: 15 million fools "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2015-12-31 17:12 +0000
Re: 15 million fools Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> - 2015-12-31 22:00 -0500
Re: 15 million fools Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2016-01-01 17:47 +1100
Re: 15 million fools musika <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> - 2016-01-01 08:16 +0000
Re: 15 million fools Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2016-01-01 19:30 +1100
Re: 15 million fools "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-01 14:58 +0000
Re: 15 million fools Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> - 2016-01-01 21:52 -0500
Re: 15 million fools "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-02 20:42 +0000
Re: 15 million fools Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> - 2016-01-02 21:54 -0500
Re: 15 million fools "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-03 16:09 +0000
Re: 15 million fools Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> - 2016-01-01 21:47 -0500
Re: 15 million fools "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-02 20:42 +0000
Re: 15 million fools "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-01 14:57 +0000
Re: 15 million fools Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> - 2016-01-01 21:54 -0500
Re: 15 million fools "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-02 20:44 +0000
Re: 15 million fools Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> - 2016-01-02 21:55 -0500
Re: 15 million fools "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-03 16:10 +0000
Re: 15 million fools Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> - 2016-01-03 17:32 -0500
Re: 15 million fools "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-04 00:25 +0000
Re: 15 million fools Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> - 2016-01-04 11:56 -0500
Re: 15 million fools "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-04 17:21 +0000
Re: 15 million fools Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> - 2016-01-04 17:44 -0500
Re: 15 million fools "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-04 23:38 +0000
Re: 15 million fools Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> - 2016-01-04 23:12 -0500
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Re: 15 million fools Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> - 2016-01-05 22:04 -0500
Re: 15 million fools "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-06 20:09 +0000
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Re: 15 million fools Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> - 2015-12-31 22:36 -0500
Re: 15 million fools Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2016-01-01 18:12 +1100
Re: 15 million fools Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> - 2016-01-01 22:17 -0500
Re: 15 million fools "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-01 11:00 +0000
Re: 15 million fools GordonD <g.davie@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-01 19:46 +0000
Re: 15 million fools "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-01 19:54 +0000
Re: 15 million fools Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> - 2016-01-01 22:41 -0500
Re: 15 million fools "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-02 20:46 +0000
Re: 15 million fools Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> - 2016-01-02 21:52 -0500
Re: 15 million fools RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2016-01-02 22:03 -0700
Re: 15 million fools Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2016-01-03 17:34 +1100
Re: 15 million fools Janet <nobody@home.org> - 2016-01-03 11:31 +0000
Re: 15 million fools Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> - 2016-01-03 17:40 -0500
Re: 15 million fools Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2016-01-04 10:13 +1100
Re: 15 million fools Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> - 2016-01-05 16:43 -0500
Re: 15 million fools Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 17:36 -0500
Re: 15 million fools "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-03 18:36 +0000
Re: 15 million fools Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> - 2016-01-03 17:54 -0500
Re: 15 million fools "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-04 00:27 +0000
Re: 15 million fools Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net> - 2016-01-04 17:58 -0500
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Re: 15 million fools GordonD <g.davie@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-04 09:06 +0000
Re: 15 million fools "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-04 19:15 +0000
Re: 15 million fools Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> - 2016-01-02 17:29 -0800
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