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Re: Debian sever ties with Google?

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Satvik Sinha dijo [Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 09:19:59PM +0530]:
> Guys come on what the hell. Since past few days all I have been hearing on
> this mailing list is endless arguments sparked by debian team pulling out
> of X.Since past few days you had been also bringing geo politics into open
> source space. We all know when microsoft decided to pull plug  on windows ,
> for our older systems and one who cannot afford buying new ones just yet
> cause it hadn't been that long when they first bought their system we have
> to end up relying on Linux that is our only hope when windows start slowing
> down approaching end of life period.Debian is literally open source so we
> can see what code is being put into it so it's no issues.
> (...)

Free software *is* politics. Involvement in a global-scale free software project
*is* by itself a political statement. No, it is not partisan- or
country-specific politics, but it is an expression of how a group of people want
to influence the way society works.

> Don't bring geopolitics here yo'all forget why we joined this mailing at
> first place. iT was to know internal updates about debian and to see if we
> can contribute something to it. If debian team pulled off X , it's their
> choice. It was undoubtedly that x sometimes interfered with other country's
> politics and sometimes allowed hate speech but hey which platform didn't ?
> Even reddit was no less. When debian joined x they joined it to keep users
> informed about updates to Debian who are not in mailing list. We all hail
> from different parts of world and literally every country's dev contributes
> to open source. That's what open source is all about ,so how about we
> accept what happened and move on.

Right, I see what you are pointing at here: all in all, the decision of the
Debian Publicity team to pull out from X/Twitter is theirs, as they are the
people doing that work; the decision was informed to the rest of the project and
to the world at large, because it is relevant, but it is that team that decides
how to use their time. That sparked a comment by a DD who is seemingly unhappy
and relates the decision to the political events in the USA -- Of course it
might be related!

But anyway, even if you don't want to be dragged into geopolitics,
debian-project is the list where we discuss non-technical aspects of the
project, and as such, it is the _best_ place to air our (project-related,
naturally) political positions, at least before they reach i.e. debian-vote.

   - Gunnar.

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Debian sever ties with Google? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2025-01-31 04:10 +0100
  Re: Debian sever ties with Google? Andrew Pollock <apollock@debian.org> - 2025-01-31 06:30 +0100
    Re: Debian sever ties with Google? Tiago Bortoletto Vaz <tiago@debian.org> - 2025-01-31 15:20 +0100
    Re: Debian sever ties with Google? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2025-01-31 21:30 +0100
      Re: Debian sever ties with Google? Iustin Pop <iustin@debian.org> - 2025-01-31 23:00 +0100
      Re: Debian sever ties with Google? Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2025-01-31 23:00 +0100
      Re: Debian sever ties with Google? Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2025-01-31 23:00 +0100
        Re: Debian sever ties with Google? Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2025-02-01 20:30 +0100
          Re: Debian sever ties with Google? Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-02-01 23:00 +0100
      Re: Debian sever ties with Google? dovencio.doshorte@gmail.com - 2025-02-01 14:20 +0100
        Re: Debian sever ties with Google? "Jeffrey Anthony Serio" <hyperreal@moonshadow.dev> - 2025-02-01 17:50 +0100
      Re: Debian sever ties with Google? Emmanuel Arias <eamanu@debian.org> - 2025-02-01 23:00 +0100
  Re: Debian sever ties with Google? Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> - 2025-01-31 15:40 +0100
  Re: Debian sever ties with Google? Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2025-02-01 20:30 +0100
  Re: Debian sever ties with Google? Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2025-02-01 20:30 +0100
  Re: Debian sever ties with Google? Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-02-02 14:10 +0100
  Re: Debian sever ties with Google? Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2025-02-06 12:50 +0100
    Re: Debian sever ties with Google? thomas@goirand.fr - 2025-02-06 16:40 +0100
      Re: Debian sever ties with Google? Satvik Sinha <sinhasatvik214@gmail.com> - 2025-02-06 18:10 +0100
        Re: Debian sever ties with Google? Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2025-02-06 18:50 +0100
          Re: Debian sever ties with Google? "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2025-02-07 02:00 +0100
            Re: Debian sever ties with Google? Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-02-07 03:00 +0100
              Re: Debian sever ties with Google? "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2025-02-07 03:30 +0100
                Re: Debian sever ties with Google? dovencio.doshorte@gmail.com - 2025-02-07 08:50 +0100
                Re: Debian sever ties with Google? "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2025-02-07 12:00 +0100
                Re: Debian sever ties with Google? dovencio.doshorte@gmail.com - 2025-02-08 08:20 +0100
                Re: Debian sever ties with Google? Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-02-07 08:50 +0100
    Re: Debian sever ties with Google? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2025-02-07 03:00 +0100

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