Re: a Constitutional interpretation question

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From	Bart Martens <bartm@debian.org>
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Subject	Re: a Constitutional interpretation question
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On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 02:51:02PM -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 15, 2025 8:45:40 AM Mountain Standard Time Ian 
> Jackson wrote:
> > Looking at the responses to Sean and my draft GR proposal last
> > month, it seems that a several people were upset that we were
> > trying to use the formal governance mechanism at all.
> 
> This was surprising to me as well when I recently proposed a GR.  As 
> if even proposing a GR were an attack on Debian.

I'm also surprised that proposing a GR can cause a tsunami of strong negative
reactions.

> 
> In my case, the GR failed to receive seconds.  I considered that to 
> mean that there wasn’t sufficient interest among other Debian 
> Developers.  So, for me, I considered that the end of the matter.
> 
> In that regard, I think the GR process did exactly what it was 
> supposed to do.

Exactly.

> 
> -- 
> Soren Stoutner
> soren@debian.org



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          Re: a Constitutional interpretation question "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-15 18:00 +0200
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            Re: a Constitutional interpretation question Bart Martens <bartm@debian.org> - 2025-04-17 00:20 +0200
          Re: a Constitutional interpretation question Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2025-04-16 03:20 +0200

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