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Re: a Constitutional interpretation question

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Ian Jackson wrote:
> Instead, the Leadership is supposed to be the front-line mechanism for
> oversight of Delegates, but it isn't working.  That's one of the "more
> fundamental problems" that I was suggesting would be a better focus.

I get your point, and I mostly agree.
However, I wonder how that fits with 8.2: "The Project Leader may not
make the position as a Delegate conditional on particular decisions by
the Delegate"
As I understand it, that means that the Leader cannot say "I give you
this delegation, but you must do X". It may be argued that, by the
same token, the Leader cannot say either "you must do X or I'll revoke
your delegation", and even "since you don't want to do X, I'm
appointing another delegate who will do it" seems questionable, for
it's clearly a way to work around that prohibition.
In other words, it looks like the DPL's power to "oversee" delegates
is explicitly limited by the Constitution, and a GR is indeed the only
way to overrule them, unless the TC is empowered to do that.

> A similar situation doesn't arise for TC decisions about packages,
> because there we have NMUs which can be used to implemente a decison.

The difference is only that in this case there is a straightforward
way to work around the resistance of a "person who does not want to do
a task" (as per 2.1.1). I'm not convinced that this is enough reason
why the TC shouldn't act also when there isn't.

Gerardo

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  Re: a Constitutional interpretation question Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-10 20:10 +0200
    Re: a Constitutional interpretation question "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 21:30 +0200
      Re: a Constitutional interpretation question Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org> - 2025-04-11 13:20 +0200
    Re: a Constitutional interpretation question Gerardo Ballabio <gerardo.ballabio@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 14:00 +0200
      Re: a Constitutional interpretation question Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2025-04-14 21:10 +0200
        Re: a Constitutional interpretation question Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-15 17:50 +0200
          Re: a Constitutional interpretation question "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-15 18:00 +0200
          Re: a Constitutional interpretation question Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-04-16 01:00 +0200
            Re: a Constitutional interpretation question Bart Martens <bartm@debian.org> - 2025-04-17 00:20 +0200
          Re: a Constitutional interpretation question Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2025-04-16 03:20 +0200

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