Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Dmitry Shachnev Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 11:10:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: Debian Python X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Tue Dec 13 10:06:52 2022 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.48 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8=0.02, PGPSIGNATURE=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 CL_IP_EQ_HELO_IP=-2 (check from: .gmail. - helo: .mail-lj1-f175.google. - helo-domain: .google.) FROM/MX_MATCHES_HELO(DOMAIN)=-2; rate: -5.5 X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pnmY89FgqVVvpQT2m2knQWyVOF/hdl3CRVz2dFn1cijklQw6mOm nvwrWOicTs1RoVnJV7Z1n++9VeAzmiTQRQ== X-Google-SMTP-Source: AA0mqf5D+suXoQPhcuskUVPTmIYcRR9iTx+LF6vlwranmI3442Yv4OTAKGIAqdMEu3T6mHONx0Ieug== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9a87:0:b0:279:e300:8f91 with SMTP id p7-20020a2e9a87000000b00279e3008f91mr6608876lji.43.1670925992145; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 02:06:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Y3TOICJFK/1HZsuk" Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20589 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/Y5hOpbrF/+Rc4LNm@mitya57.me Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 64 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 13:06:29 +0300 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <20221213091537.wovnxc44yzietsls@mail.gaussglocke.de> <4a7a4d174aaf4df2a518518b86e6be76@posteo.de> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:14723 --Y3TOICJFK/1HZsuk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 10:15:37AM +0100, Timo R=F6hling wrote: > One remaining problem is the unmaintained nose package, which is not > compatible with Python 3.11 and still a dependency of 200+ packages, > including ~40 key packages [1]. I've seen that crusoe has done some work > patching up nose, but AFAICT it is not building yet. > > Is this something we can resolve in time, either by fixing nose or > removing it altogether? I will try to fix nose. The remaining problem is just failing doctest. On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 09:57:57AM +0000, c.buhtz@posteo.jp wrote: > This question is just for my learning: Why is nose patched? Upstream nose= is > unmaintained for years. > > I understand that you cannot drop nose from Debian in the current situati= on > of a freeze in one months and so many dependencies. > > But isn't there a Debian process/workflow to "warn" package maintainers > about an upcoming package drop of one of there dependend packages to put > some pressure into it? Looking into the list of over 200 packages I see t= his > also as a chance to clean out some other unmaintained (and maybe not so > important) packages from the Debian repo. There are bugs filed against every package: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?users=3Dpython-modules-team@l= ists.alioth.debian.org;tag=3Dnose-rm -- Dmitry Shachnev --Y3TOICJFK/1HZsuk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEE5688gqe4PSusUZcLZkYmW1hrg8sFAmOYTqIACgkQZkYmW1hr g8u78w//Y/f2MdzpFxh3qtp8I8iQ7CXLk2HOPy5+YDb7RXcFKFf+U/4twOr51AB3 zv71BpRxZhQ4ArBFi1u3I8GUqUh6NWiupqyaMk8x9mjHEGg3DvVUUue5YdLHvs8f unA6k18BF66sybnwvPRtx8W5iVmrX/WwxvkjU93Tqr7jfbkogLcxHsdRqMh7QSu9 VVnhBPMu7jWL8l2sNj1Dc6m51MPAvwrO52GWAUXwtO/hV9k/V/p7wDDaH710jmsa YQwYQIvulbffUbSDV9m+WOWDGgVY2z6cvMMtCb70dsIaahYxzJeg+mCdg8rBrkp1 V5HS3bvSnRShaXJzZXBVEOIjJQDZQ+IRqsa2WoDcfcWDcpWWk8ilA6RuofPqY+GD k6CJMl3TtJGrKIjDPAu57lcGTdC8WI4Hov7eHcSfvzND0jXRG0iwzLw043KUYo/K 38iJ5wAF9l+/PFlg9u9E2mAuwMBkMxZWh7oaKmrOfiinXvxZ9ILybN/Z54mM2YaP kMIEaj96AARbvmVfObJ1IwIAy5mEjGOOOs0R0JrG8gLsQ1PaVc/dUDgSM2AbC3Vg tQmgHp4hsqZjuYPeW7ak9AJORJKyZzT2qYg4vtQAVpMyEQ1vm/Tu7Iu6LcafQfvs 4S35RPpdBcnlWJwAGSQ5Kx6qeQzJe1OwX5CLC8NU0s17LXPFmx8= =9tW4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Y3TOICJFK/1HZsuk--