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Re: recommends for apparmor in newest linux-image-4.13

From Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
Newsgroups linux.debian.kernel, linux.debian.devel
Subject Re: recommends for apparmor in newest linux-image-4.13
Date 2017-11-23 15:00 +0100
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On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 14:18 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> is there any good reason for the recommends of apparmor in the latest
> linux packages?  apparomor is just one of many security modules, and
> a fairly bogus one to start with.  The kernel should not recommend it
> as it doesn't add at all to the expected kernel functionality.

AppArmor is the default LSM.

> The changelog suggests it was done that systemd units might use it,
> but in that case those systemd units should depend on apparmor.

They don't depend on AppArmor unless it's enabled.  Which is a decision
made in the kernel configuration (potentially overriden by the kernel
comamnd line).

Ben.

> And to start with there probably should be a policty that no unit
> file shall fail the boot for a missing security module (any of them).

-- 
Ben Hutchings
When in doubt, use brute force. - Ken Thompson

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recommends for apparmor in newest linux-image-4.13 Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-11-23 14:50 +0100
  Re: recommends for apparmor in newest linux-image-4.13 Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2017-11-23 15:00 +0100
    Re: recommends for apparmor in newest linux-image-4.13 Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2017-11-23 15:10 +0100
      Re: recommends for apparmor in newest linux-image-4.13 Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-11-23 15:20 +0100
        Re: recommends for apparmor in newest linux-image-4.13 Lars Wirzenius <liw@liw.fi> - 2017-11-23 16:10 +0100
          Re: recommends for apparmor in newest linux-image-4.13 Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-11-28 20:20 +0100
            Re: recommends for apparmor in newest linux-image-4.13 md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri) - 2017-11-29 00:50 +0100
              Re: recommends for apparmor in newest linux-image-4.13 Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-11-29 04:20 +0100
    Re: recommends for apparmor in newest linux-image-4.13 Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-11-23 15:20 +0100
  Re: recommends for apparmor in newest linux-image-4.13 Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> - 2017-11-23 15:10 +0100
    Re: recommends for apparmor in newest linux-image-4.13 maximilian attems <maks@stro.at> - 2017-11-23 16:40 +0100
      Re: recommends for apparmor in newest linux-image-4.13 Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-11-23 18:30 +0100

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