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Re: What's left of Usenet is here

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Date Thu, 09 Oct 2025 13:42:16 +0200
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On 08.10.2025 16:30, Sebastian Barthel wrote:

> Och. Da liest Du nur die falschen Sachen. Was ich eher schlimm finde, daß
> es immer (oft) so schwarz-düster daherkommt. Das macht dann keine Freude
> aufs Kommende und reduziert letztlich auch die Leserschaft.

Das ist wohl wahr.
Wer Nachrichten hört/schaut, der braucht eigentlich keine Dystopien mehr.

> Die Hochzeit
> der SciFi dürfte aber eher so ab Mitte der 1920er und dann nochmal so
> 1960 bis 1980 gewesen sein.

Lass es 1950 bis 1970 sein.
Das war die Zeit, in der Raumfahrt und Nuklearwissenschaft hip waren.
Danach bröselte der Optimus weg.
Parallel dazu verminderte sich das entsprechende Angebot in Buchhandlungen.
Noch in den 1980ern zB gab es Regalmeter von Heyne-TB,
übersetzter US-SF aus den 60ern.
Alles weg, statt dessen nur noch Fantasy-Schrott.

Sagas wie Star Wars sind auch keine SF (viel Fiction, keine Science, 
dafür "Prinzessinnen" :-)
sondern eher Fantasy.
Kann auch sein, dass typische SF-Themen einfach auserzählt sind.
Auch modern daherkommende Serien wie Babylon 5
und die unzähligen Ableger von Star Trek sind nur
der x-te Aufguss von bekanntem und zum Erbrechen politisch korrekt.

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Re: What's left of Usenet is here Michael Kraemer <m.kraemer@gsi.de> - 2025-10-04 16:34 +0200
  Re: What's left of Usenet is here Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2025-10-04 17:20 +0000
    Re: What's left of Usenet is here Michael Noe <michaelnoeusenet@mac.com> - 2025-10-05 03:55 +0000
      Re: What's left of Usenet is here Başar Alabay <alabay@gmx.net> - 2025-10-05 15:01 +0000
        Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-05 17:12 +0200
        Re: What's left of Usenet is here Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2025-10-06 13:59 +0200
          Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-06 18:31 +0200
            Re: What's left of Usenet is here Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-10-06 18:41 +0200
              Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-06 18:50 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-06 17:03 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-10-06 22:45 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2025-10-07 09:40 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-07 08:36 +0000
              Re: What's left of Usenet is here Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-10-06 22:44 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2025-10-07 10:16 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2025-10-09 09:54 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Marco Moock <mm+solani@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-07 21:03 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-10-08 22:11 +0200
              Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-07 09:26 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2025-11-19 19:46 +0100
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-11-19 20:12 +0100
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-11-20 10:22 +0100
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-20 09:35 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-11-20 19:22 +0100
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-15 11:49 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2026-06-15 14:44 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2026-06-15 20:27 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-16 08:07 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2026-06-16 18:48 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-11-20 19:21 +0100
            Re: What's left of Usenet is here Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2025-11-12 21:08 +0100
              Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-11-13 18:44 +0100
        Re: What's left of Usenet is here Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2025-11-12 20:49 +0100
          Re: What's left of Usenet is here Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2025-11-13 13:26 +0100
    Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-05 11:00 +0200
      Re: What's left of Usenet is here Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2025-10-06 19:37 +0000
        Re: What's left of Usenet is here Marco Moock <mm+solani@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-07 21:09 +0200
          Re: What's left of Usenet is here Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-10-08 22:13 +0200
        Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-08 07:50 +0200
          Re: What's left of Usenet is here Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2025-10-08 14:30 +0000
            Re: What's left of Usenet is here Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-10-08 18:56 +0000
            Re: What's left of Usenet is here Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> - 2025-10-08 19:26 +0000
              Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-08 21:53 +0200
              Re: What's left of Usenet is here Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-11-01 13:20 +0100
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2025-11-01 14:53 +0100
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-11-02 11:14 +0100
            Re: sf (was: What's left of Usenet is here ) Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-08 21:51 +0200
            Re: What's left of Usenet is here Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-10-08 22:16 +0200
              Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-09 05:25 +0200
            Re: What's left of Usenet is here Michael Kraemer <m.kraemer@gsi.de> - 2025-10-09 13:42 +0200
              Re: What's left of Usenet is here Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2025-10-09 20:02 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-10 07:51 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Harold Winter <SJJADEWRWQAX@spammotel.com> - 2025-10-10 09:15 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-10-10 13:08 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-10 19:27 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2025-10-10 18:20 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-11 09:41 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-11 12:27 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Michael Kraemer <m.kraemer@gsi.de> - 2025-10-11 12:04 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-11 12:29 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-11 16:38 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-11 16:50 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-11 16:51 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-11 16:52 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-11 16:53 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2025-10-11 15:08 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2025-10-12 18:21 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-13 07:27 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-10-13 15:42 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Guido Grohmann <guido.grohmann@gmx.de> - 2025-10-12 18:15 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Michael Kraemer <m.kraemer@gsi.de> - 2025-10-13 12:19 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-10 13:38 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2025-10-10 18:12 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Michael Kraemer <m.kraemer@gsi.de> - 2025-10-11 11:49 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2025-10-11 14:00 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-11 14:14 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-10-11 16:23 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-11 17:24 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-10-11 18:13 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2025-10-12 15:06 +0000
                Nukleare Salzwasserraketen und Generationenschiffe (was: What's left of Usenet is here) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-12 16:21 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2025-10-12 18:26 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2025-10-12 18:05 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2025-10-12 20:37 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Frank Nitzschner <nospam@nitzschner.de> - 2025-10-13 07:20 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-13 14:29 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-13 07:33 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-10-13 15:47 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2025-10-13 19:13 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-13 17:42 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-10-13 18:11 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2025-10-13 20:17 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-10-13 19:47 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-11 12:09 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-10 08:34 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenstein@gmail.com> - 2025-10-11 06:40 +0000
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Michael Kraemer <m.kraemer@gsi.de> - 2025-10-11 11:45 +0200
                Re: What's left of Usenet is here Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-11 12:37 +0200
    Re: What's left of Usenet is here Michael Kraemer <m.kraemer@gsi.de> - 2025-10-05 11:39 +0200
      Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-05 10:02 +0000
        Re: What's left of Usenet is here Michael Noe <michaelnoeusenet@mac.com> - 2025-10-05 10:22 +0000
      Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-05 12:15 +0200
        Re: What's left of Usenet is here Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> - 2025-10-05 21:29 +0000
          Re: What's left of Usenet is here Michael Noe <michaelnoeusenet@mac.com> - 2025-10-06 04:54 +0000
          Re: What's left of Usenet is here Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenstein@gmail.com> - 2025-10-06 05:08 +0000
    Re: What's left of Usenet is here Marco Moock <mm+solani@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-05 12:20 +0200
      Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-05 10:22 +0000
      Re: What's left of Usenet is here Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenstein@gmail.com> - 2025-10-05 12:53 +0000
        Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-05 17:10 +0200
      Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-05 16:25 +0200
      Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-05 16:51 +0200
        Re: What's left of Usenet is here Marco Moock <mm+solani@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-05 17:12 +0200
          Re: What's left of Usenet is here michaelnoeusenet@mac.com (Michael Noe) - 2025-10-05 17:30 +0200
        Re: What's left of Usenet is here Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-09 07:21 +0000
        Re: What's left of Usenet is here Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2025-10-09 10:00 +0200
  Re: What's left of Usenet is here Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-04 18:57 +0000
  Re: What's left of Usenet is here Bernd Laengerich <Bernd.Laengerich@web.de> - 2025-10-13 18:52 +0200
    Re: What's left of Usenet is here Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-10-14 10:20 +0200

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