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Re: The error of the halting problem

From joes <noreply@example.com>
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Subject Re: The error of the halting problem
Date 2024-06-04 08:27 +0000
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Am Mon, 03 Jun 2024 21:14:34 -0500 schrieb olcott:
> On 6/3/2024 8:58 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 6/3/24 9:51 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 6/3/2024 8:44 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 6/3/24 8:59 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 6/3/2024 7:55 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/3/24 4:53 PM, olcott wrote:

>>>>>> But it doesn't reduce to that, as the decider was fixed in code
>>>>>> first, and then, by using that code, a question is constructed WITH
>>>>>> A RIGHT ANSWER, that just isn't the answer that this decider
>>>>>> happens to give.
>>>>>> You just don't seem to understand logic well enough to understand
>>>>>> that not that subtitle difference.
>>>>> In other words you are trying to get away with saying that it is
>>>>> only random chance that H gets the wrong answer not that the game is
>>>>> rigged against H.
>>>> There is nothing "random" about it, if there was there would be a
>>>> chance it could get it right.
>>> Then why did you say it was random?
>>> "just isn't the answer that this decider happens to give."
>> But the answer the decider gives isn't random, because algorithms are
>> not random.
> Then explain exactly how this is not deception:
> "just isn't the answer that this decider happens to give."
It is also not deception. It is just constructed to give the opposite
answer.

>>> When H is asked a yes/no question where both answers are contradicted
>>> by its input *IT IS A FREAKING RIGGED GAME*
Wrong analogy. The decider has no right to be correct.
>> But both answers aren't wrong. Remember, the question is built to make
>> a SPECIFIC decider wrong, and by its algorithm, it will give a SPECIFIC
>> answer to each SPECIFIC question.
> You can't get away with that head game by pretending to not understand
> what infinite an set of H/D pairs is.
What head game? What is the infinite set? We only need one H.

> I really hope you don't condemn yourself to Hell over this. But I was
> just having fun being a Troll... Is Hell worth that?
> I myself would not take the chance.

-- 
joes

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The error of the halting problem olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 15:53 -0500
  Re: The error of the halting problem Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 20:55 -0400
    Re: The error of the halting problem olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 19:59 -0500
      Re: The error of the halting problem Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 21:44 -0400
        Re: The error of the halting problem olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 20:51 -0500
          Re: The error of the halting problem Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 21:58 -0400
            Re: The error of the halting problem olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 21:14 -0500
              Re: The error of the halting problem Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 22:26 -0400
                Re: The error of the halting problem olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 21:32 -0500
                Re: The error of the halting problem Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 22:47 -0400
                Re: The error of the halting problem olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 21:58 -0500
                Re: The error of the halting problem Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 23:11 -0400
                Re: The error of the halting problem joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-04 08:29 +0000
                Re: The error of the halting problem --- G is untrue in PA olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-04 12:45 -0500
                Re: The error of the halting problem --- G is untrue in PA Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-04 21:48 -0400
                Re: The error of the halting problem Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-04 12:24 +0300
              Re: The error of the halting problem joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-04 08:27 +0000
      Re: The error of the halting problem Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-04 11:09 +0300
  Re: The error of the halting problem Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-04 11:00 +0300
    Re: The error of the halting problem olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-04 12:28 -0500
      Re: The error of the halting problem Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-04 21:48 -0400

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