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Re: media reliability

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In article <mc64um$li7$3@dont-email.me>, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
wrote:
> In article <54e690d5$0$32456$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com>,
>  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <mc61ks$li7$1@dont-email.me>, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> 
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > Ferinstance, when's the last time you met a "web[site] address" that 
> > > started "news://" or "ftp://" or "telnet://" or "magnet://" or (need I 
> > > continue? Didn't think so...)
> > 
> > news and ftp and even magnet I've seen in the last month. Telnet? I 
> > don't think I ever saw that as a scheme.
> 
> It's been part of the URL spec since... Well, since so far back that I 
> can't remember whether it was part of the original spec, or if it got 
> added in the next revision. Along with HTTP and FTP, it was made part of 
> the spec WAY early.

And is barely ever used.  :-)



> The point I was making (or at least, attempting to) is that the examples 
> I gave *ARE NOT* "web[site] addresses". 
> 
> "URL" doesn't mean (although I'm quite aware that it regularly gets used 
> as though it does) "the address of a web page". It stands for (or did - 
> the "official" meaning may have been diddled a bit while I haven't been 
> paying attention) "Uniform Resource Locator". A (theoretically...) 
> unique way of specifying exactly where to find one particular piece of 
> information, in a clearly defined format that *EVERYBODY* who follows 
> the spec can parse easily.
> 
> When it starts "http://" or "https://", it is (or at least, it's 
> expected to be) a chunk of HTML code that a web browser can/will 
> retrieve and then process to display a "web page". Possibly, but not 
> necessarily, including grabbing stuff from other URLs (that might or 
> might not be HTML) to create the displayed content. If it starts with 
> *ANYTHING* other than "http://" or "https://", then it's *NOT* a "web 
> page". It might be the location where a file can be retrieved via File 
> Transfer Protocol ("ftp://") or BitTorrent ("magnet://") It might fire 
> up an interactive terminal session ("telnet://") or get you a usenet 
> post ("news://") or any of several other resources that I can't remember 
> without going and digging up the spec.

I didn't say it was the correct term, simply the one most people use
because they don't care about all the geeky details ... they are also
mostly using just http[s] for websites anyway and nobody advertises or
types in the prefix these days.  :-)

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media reliability Frank <gno52@windstream.net> - 2015-02-18 04:00 -0800
  Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-18 08:15 -0500
    Re: media reliability Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-02-18 09:24 -0500
      Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-18 13:03 -0500
        Re: media reliability Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-19 00:03 +0000
          Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-19 04:59 +0000
            Re: media reliability Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-19 12:53 +0000
              Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-20 02:51 +0000
            Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-19 08:44 -0500
              Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-20 03:23 +0000
                Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-20 07:42 -0500
                Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-21 06:05 +0000
              Re: media reliability Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-20 04:51 +0000
            Re: media reliability Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-19 08:49 -0500
          Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-19 08:38 -0500
          Re: media reliability Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-19 17:12 +0000
            Re: media reliability Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-19 11:45 -0800
              Re: media reliability Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-02-19 22:24 +0000
              Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-20 13:10 +1300
                Re: media reliability Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-19 17:14 -0800
                Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-19 20:41 -0500
                Re: media reliability Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-19 18:11 -0800
                Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-20 18:15 +1300
                Re: media reliability David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-02-19 20:32 -0600
                Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-20 07:36 -0500
                Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-20 07:51 -0500
                Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-20 03:33 +0000
                Re: media reliability Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-19 19:57 -0800
                Re: media reliability Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-20 09:44 +0000
                Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-21 06:10 +0000
                Re: media reliability Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-21 10:23 +0000
                Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-21 10:33 -0500
                Re: media reliability Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-22 15:33 +0000
                Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-22 09:51 +1300
                Re: media reliability Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-21 13:09 -0800
                Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-22 03:30 +0000
    Re: media reliability isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2015-02-18 09:40 -0800
      Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-19 05:06 +0000
    Re: media reliability Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2015-02-18 19:31 -0500
      Re: media reliability Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-18 19:38 -0500
      Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-19 13:55 +1300
        Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-19 05:17 +0000
          Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-19 19:02 +1300
            Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-19 09:09 -0500
              Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-20 09:12 +1300
      Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-19 08:57 -0500
  Re: media reliability Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-02-18 09:24 -0500
  Re: media reliability Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-18 19:20 -0500
    Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-19 05:33 +0000
      Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-19 19:15 +1300
        Re: media reliability Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-18 23:22 -0800
        Re: media reliability Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-19 08:39 -0500
          Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-20 03:21 +0000
            Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-20 18:46 +1300
              Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-21 06:04 +0000
                Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-21 10:36 -0500
                Re: media reliability Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-22 15:32 +0000
                Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-22 09:48 +1300
                Re: media reliability Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-21 13:08 -0800
                Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-22 03:40 +0000
                Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-22 17:42 +1300
      Re: media reliability Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-19 08:36 -0500
        Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-20 03:10 +0000
          Re: media reliability Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-20 08:19 -0500
      Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-19 09:15 -0500
        Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-20 09:19 +1300
          Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-20 03:28 +0000
          Re: media reliability Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-21 11:01 -0500
            Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-21 15:03 -0500
              Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-22 09:57 +1300
                Re: media reliability Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-21 19:33 -0500
    Re: media reliability Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-19 13:02 +0000
      Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-20 02:56 +0000
        Re: media reliability Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-20 04:43 +0000
  Re: media reliability Frank <gno52@windstream.net> - 2015-02-22 03:24 -0800
    Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-23 09:36 +1300
      Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-22 18:36 -0500
        Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-23 13:24 +1300
        Re: media reliability Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-22 17:23 -0800
          Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-22 21:24 -0500
            Re: media reliability Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-22 19:13 -0800
              Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-22 23:13 -0500
            Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-23 18:03 +1300
  Re: media reliability Frank <gno52@windstream.net> - 2015-02-23 02:59 -0800
    Re: media reliability John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-23 07:00 -0800
      Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-24 09:13 +1300

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