Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]
Groups > comp.sys.mac.system > #69887 > unrolled thread
| Started by | Frank <gno52@windstream.net> |
|---|---|
| First post | 2015-02-18 04:00 -0800 |
| Last post | 2015-02-24 09:13 +1300 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 86 — 15 participants |
Back to article view | Back to comp.sys.mac.system
media reliability Frank <gno52@windstream.net> - 2015-02-18 04:00 -0800
Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-18 08:15 -0500
Re: media reliability Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-02-18 09:24 -0500
Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-18 13:03 -0500
Re: media reliability Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-19 00:03 +0000
Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-19 04:59 +0000
Re: media reliability Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-19 12:53 +0000
Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-20 02:51 +0000
Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-19 08:44 -0500
Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-20 03:23 +0000
Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-20 07:42 -0500
Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-21 06:05 +0000
Re: media reliability Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-20 04:51 +0000
Re: media reliability Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-19 08:49 -0500
Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-19 08:38 -0500
Re: media reliability Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-19 17:12 +0000
Re: media reliability Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-19 11:45 -0800
Re: media reliability Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-02-19 22:24 +0000
Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-20 13:10 +1300
Re: media reliability Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-19 17:14 -0800
Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-19 20:41 -0500
Re: media reliability Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-19 18:11 -0800
Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-20 18:15 +1300
Re: media reliability David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-02-19 20:32 -0600
Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-20 07:36 -0500
Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-20 07:51 -0500
Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-20 03:33 +0000
Re: media reliability Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-19 19:57 -0800
Re: media reliability Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-20 09:44 +0000
Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-21 06:10 +0000
Re: media reliability Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-21 10:23 +0000
Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-21 10:33 -0500
Re: media reliability Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-22 15:33 +0000
Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-22 09:51 +1300
Re: media reliability Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-21 13:09 -0800
Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-22 03:30 +0000
Re: media reliability isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2015-02-18 09:40 -0800
Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-19 05:06 +0000
Re: media reliability Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2015-02-18 19:31 -0500
Re: media reliability Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-18 19:38 -0500
Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-19 13:55 +1300
Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-19 05:17 +0000
Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-19 19:02 +1300
Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-19 09:09 -0500
Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-20 09:12 +1300
Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-19 08:57 -0500
Re: media reliability Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-02-18 09:24 -0500
Re: media reliability Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-18 19:20 -0500
Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-19 05:33 +0000
Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-19 19:15 +1300
Re: media reliability Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-18 23:22 -0800
Re: media reliability Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-19 08:39 -0500
Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-20 03:21 +0000
Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-20 18:46 +1300
Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-21 06:04 +0000
Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-21 10:36 -0500
Re: media reliability Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-22 15:32 +0000
Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-22 09:48 +1300
Re: media reliability Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-21 13:08 -0800
Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-22 03:40 +0000
Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-22 17:42 +1300
Re: media reliability Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-19 08:36 -0500
Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-20 03:10 +0000
Re: media reliability Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-20 08:19 -0500
Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-19 09:15 -0500
Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-20 09:19 +1300
Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-20 03:28 +0000
Re: media reliability Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-21 11:01 -0500
Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-21 15:03 -0500
Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-22 09:57 +1300
Re: media reliability Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-21 19:33 -0500
Re: media reliability Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-19 13:02 +0000
Re: media reliability John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-20 02:56 +0000
Re: media reliability Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-20 04:43 +0000
Re: media reliability Frank <gno52@windstream.net> - 2015-02-22 03:24 -0800
Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-23 09:36 +1300
Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-22 18:36 -0500
Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-23 13:24 +1300
Re: media reliability Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-22 17:23 -0800
Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-22 21:24 -0500
Re: media reliability Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-22 19:13 -0800
Re: media reliability Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-22 23:13 -0500
Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-23 18:03 +1300
Re: media reliability Frank <gno52@windstream.net> - 2015-02-23 02:59 -0800
Re: media reliability John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-23 07:00 -0800
Re: media reliability Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-24 09:13 +1300
Page 2 of 5 — ← Prev page 1 [2] 3 4 5 Next page →
| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-19 20:41 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <54e690d5$0$32456$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #69971 |
In article <mc61ks$li7$1@dont-email.me>, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote: > > Ferinstance, when's the last time you met a "web[site] address" that > started "news://" or "ftp://" or "telnet://" or "magnet://" or (need I > continue? Didn't think so...) news and ftp and even magnet I've seen in the last month. Telnet? I don't think I ever saw that as a scheme. -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-19 18:11 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <mc64um$li7$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69973 |
In article <54e690d5$0$32456$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <mc61ks$li7$1@dont-email.me>, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Ferinstance, when's the last time you met a "web[site] address" that
> > started "news://" or "ftp://" or "telnet://" or "magnet://" or (need I
> > continue? Didn't think so...)
>
> news and ftp and even magnet I've seen in the last month. Telnet? I
> don't think I ever saw that as a scheme.
It's been part of the URL spec since... Well, since so far back that I
can't remember whether it was part of the original spec, or if it got
added in the next revision. Along with HTTP and FTP, it was made part of
the spec WAY early.
The point I was making (or at least, attempting to) is that the examples
I gave *ARE NOT* "web[site] addresses".
"URL" doesn't mean (although I'm quite aware that it regularly gets used
as though it does) "the address of a web page". It stands for (or did -
the "official" meaning may have been diddled a bit while I haven't been
paying attention) "Uniform Resource Locator". A (theoretically...)
unique way of specifying exactly where to find one particular piece of
information, in a clearly defined format that *EVERYBODY* who follows
the spec can parse easily.
When it starts "http://" or "https://", it is (or at least, it's
expected to be) a chunk of HTML code that a web browser can/will
retrieve and then process to display a "web page". Possibly, but not
necessarily, including grabbing stuff from other URLs (that might or
might not be HTML) to create the displayed content. If it starts with
*ANYTHING* other than "http://" or "https://", then it's *NOT* a "web
page". It might be the location where a file can be retrieved via File
Transfer Protocol ("ftp://") or BitTorrent ("magnet://") It might fire
up an interactive terminal session ("telnet://") or get you a usenet
post ("news://") or any of several other resources that I can't remember
without going and digging up the spec.
--
Security provided by Mssrs Smith and/or Wesson. Brought to you by the letter Q
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-20 18:15 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <200220151815179577%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #69976 |
In article <mc64um$li7$3@dont-email.me>, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
wrote:
> In article <54e690d5$0$32456$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com>,
> Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <mc61ks$li7$1@dont-email.me>, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Ferinstance, when's the last time you met a "web[site] address" that
> > > started "news://" or "ftp://" or "telnet://" or "magnet://" or (need I
> > > continue? Didn't think so...)
> >
> > news and ftp and even magnet I've seen in the last month. Telnet? I
> > don't think I ever saw that as a scheme.
>
> It's been part of the URL spec since... Well, since so far back that I
> can't remember whether it was part of the original spec, or if it got
> added in the next revision. Along with HTTP and FTP, it was made part of
> the spec WAY early.
And is barely ever used. :-)
> The point I was making (or at least, attempting to) is that the examples
> I gave *ARE NOT* "web[site] addresses".
>
> "URL" doesn't mean (although I'm quite aware that it regularly gets used
> as though it does) "the address of a web page". It stands for (or did -
> the "official" meaning may have been diddled a bit while I haven't been
> paying attention) "Uniform Resource Locator". A (theoretically...)
> unique way of specifying exactly where to find one particular piece of
> information, in a clearly defined format that *EVERYBODY* who follows
> the spec can parse easily.
>
> When it starts "http://" or "https://", it is (or at least, it's
> expected to be) a chunk of HTML code that a web browser can/will
> retrieve and then process to display a "web page". Possibly, but not
> necessarily, including grabbing stuff from other URLs (that might or
> might not be HTML) to create the displayed content. If it starts with
> *ANYTHING* other than "http://" or "https://", then it's *NOT* a "web
> page". It might be the location where a file can be retrieved via File
> Transfer Protocol ("ftp://") or BitTorrent ("magnet://") It might fire
> up an interactive terminal session ("telnet://") or get you a usenet
> post ("news://") or any of several other resources that I can't remember
> without going and digging up the spec.
I didn't say it was the correct term, simply the one most people use
because they don't care about all the geeky details ... they are also
mostly using just http[s] for websites anyway and nobody advertises or
types in the prefix these days. :-)
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-19 20:32 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <alpine.OSX.2.20.1502192006510.47016@mako.ath.cx> |
| In reply to | #69973 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
On Thursday, 19 February 2015 20:41 -0500,
in article <54e690d5$0$32456$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <mc61ks$li7$1@dont-email.me>,
> Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
>> Ferinstance, when's the last time you met a "web[site] address"
>> that started "news://" or "ftp://" or "telnet://" or "magnet://" or
>> (need I continue? Didn't think so...)
> news and ftp and even magnet I've seen in the last month. Telnet? I
> don't think I ever saw that as a scheme.
I have, but not for some time.
How about news: (as differentiable from news://) finger:, file://,
wais:, gopher: or mailto:? I've seen news:, mailto: and file://
today. I just used <news://news.mixmin.net/comp.sys.mac.system>, to
take a look at this newsgroup.
$ lynx news://news.mixmin.net/comp.sys.mac.system
For what little it's worth, I refer to these as U-R-L types.
- --
David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
Be kind to animals; kiss a shark.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2
iEYEARECAAYFAlTmnKUACgkQUrwpmRoS3uvHVACbBTCQjCG2Nq4oTG1ViJH16xWR
fl8AnAt2U+yVDFt6UgeiWpQsSmHXuVJY
=pEti
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-20 07:36 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <54e72a45$0$44776$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #69978 |
In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1502192006510.47016@mako.ath.cx>, David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote: > I have, but not for some time. > > How about news: (as differentiable from news://) finger:, file://, > wais:, gopher: or mailto:? I've seen news:, mailto: and file:// > today. I just used <news://news.mixmin.net/comp.sys.mac.system>, to > take a look at this newsgroup. > > $ lynx news://news.mixmin.net/comp.sys.mac.system > > For what little it's worth, I refer to these as U-R-L types. They're technically called "schemes." https://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/uri-schemes.xhtml -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-20 07:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <54e72dc5$0$16871$c3e8da3$76a7c58f@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #70009 |
In article <54e72a45$0$44776$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1502192006510.47016@mako.ath.cx>, > David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote: > > > I have, but not for some time. > > > > How about news: (as differentiable from news://) finger:, file://, > > wais:, gopher: or mailto:? I've seen news:, mailto: and file:// > > today. I just used <news://news.mixmin.net/comp.sys.mac.system>, to > > take a look at this newsgroup. > > > > $ lynx news://news.mixmin.net/comp.sys.mac.system > > > > For what little it's worth, I refer to these as U-R-L types. > > They're technically called "schemes." > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/uri-schemes.xhtml And for what it's worth, before anyone starts on about Earl v Yuri: https://danielmiessler.com/study/url_vs_uri/ -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | John <Man@the.keyboard> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-20 03:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <qiadea1l6hgs1iv4dfqiafdae8bs81mr1g@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #69973 |
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 20:41:40 -0500, Warren Oates
<warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>In article <mc61ks$li7$1@dont-email.me>, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> Ferinstance, when's the last time you met a "web[site] address" that
>> started "news://" or "ftp://" or "telnet://" or "magnet://" or (need I
>> continue? Didn't think so...)
>
>news and ftp and even magnet I've seen in the last month. Telnet? I
>don't think I ever saw that as a scheme.
I used to, when I had a job. That and gopher and a couple of others.
Legacy systems abound in the wild. It's not all "Googled-up", not
quite yet.
Most modern browsers, however, tend to hide the protocol marker and
even the "www" if here is one so *knowing* a site is a Magnet URL is
going to be rare.
J.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-19 19:57 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <mc6b6j$a6t$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69987 |
In article <qiadea1l6hgs1iv4dfqiafdae8bs81mr1g@4ax.com>, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote: > On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 20:41:40 -0500, Warren Oates > <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: > > >In article <mc61ks$li7$1@dont-email.me>, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> > >wrote: > > > >> > >> Ferinstance, when's the last time you met a "web[site] address" that > >> started "news://" or "ftp://" or "telnet://" or "magnet://" or (need I > >> continue? Didn't think so...) > > > >news and ftp and even magnet I've seen in the last month. Telnet? I > >don't think I ever saw that as a scheme. > > I used to, when I had a job. That and gopher and a couple of others. > Legacy systems abound in the wild. It's not all "Googled-up", not > quite yet. > Most modern browsers, however, tend to hide the protocol marker and > even the "www" if here is one so *knowing* a site is a Magnet URL is > going to be rare. > J. Ah, but that's exactly my point: a URL *IS NOT* necessarily a "site", or even a "web page". Any given URL might (or might not) point at a "web page". It might be anything at all, from a comic strip, to a feature-length movie or a song, to a single byte of data extracted from some ungodly huge database somewhere, to an interactive terminal session, to ... Well, who the hell knows what it might be pointing at! To Joe Average User, sure - "URL" has become (mostly) interchangeable with "web page address". To someone like myself, who writes code to deal with URLs, a "http://" URL is a totally different beast from a "ftp://" URL, and has to be handled accordingly. I don't even want to think about what kind of mess is likely to result from trying to treat an FTP URL as if it were HTML, ferinstance. Granted, nothing's likely to explode (except figuratively) but treating one as if it were the other is, at best, likely to produce garbage. (Unless one gets lucky and the file at the FTP URL actually happens to contain a chunk of HTML) -- Security provided by Mssrs Smith and/or Wesson. Brought to you by the letter Q
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-20 09:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ckoe00Fq9fqU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #69989 |
On 2015-02-20, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
> To Joe Average User, sure - "URL" has become (mostly) interchangeable
> with "web page address".
So what? They're wrong. They're wrong about lots of things, especially where
technology is involved.
--
Today is Sweetmorn, the 51st day of Chaos in the YOLD 3181
I don't have an attitude problem. If you have a problem with my attitude,
that's your problem.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | John <Man@the.keyboard> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-21 06:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <948geatbm0ut5bkujabmaj2o5vu92lii63@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #70003 |
On 20 Feb 2015 09:44:32 GMT, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>On 2015-02-20, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> To Joe Average User, sure - "URL" has become (mostly) interchangeable
>> with "web page address".
I should have said "link" or "cite" instead of "site" but I'm lazy
and every byte *is* at some site, somewhere. Anyway, *you* know what I
had intended.
>
>So what? They're wrong. They're wrong about lots of things, especially where
>technology is involved.
Yeah. "Google is NOT THE INTERNET" for example. Trying to get my
sister to cope with that idea is ... tiring.
"I've typed the www-thingy into the Search bit ..."
"Google is NOT USENET" is another one.
J.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-21 10:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ckr4leFh0n6U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70050 |
On 2015-02-21, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
> On 20 Feb 2015 09:44:32 GMT, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
[10 lines snipped]
>>So what? They're wrong. They're wrong about lots of things, especially where
>>technology is involved.
>
> Yeah. "Google is NOT THE INTERNET" for example. Trying to get my
> sister to cope with that idea is ... tiring.
> "I've typed the www-thingy into the Search bit ..."
>
> "Google is NOT USENET" is another one.
My Mother thinks that Word *is* her computer. But then, she's 82 and spent
most of her working life using dedicated word processors.
--
Today is Boomtime, the 52nd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3181
I don't have an attitude problem. If you have a problem with my attitude,
that's your problem.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-21 10:33 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <54e8a55b$0$44791$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #70050 |
In article <948geatbm0ut5bkujabmaj2o5vu92lii63@4ax.com>, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote: > Yeah. "Google is NOT THE INTERNET" for example. Trying to get my > sister to cope with that idea is ... tiring. > "I've typed the www-thingy into the Search bit ..." > > "Google is NOT USENET" is another one. > J. It goes way back, though. Someone came to our house years ago and wanted to use "the Internet," and I said "sure, there's the computer; it's connected," and he sat down and stared at the screen for a bit and I asked "what do you want to do?" and he said "I want the Internet," and what he meant was Netscape. -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-22 15:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmejtmv.t4u.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #70057 |
G> In article <948geatbm0ut5bkujabmaj2o5vu92lii63@4ax.com>, > John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote: >> Yeah. "Google is NOT THE INTERNET" for example. Trying to get my >> sister to cope with that idea is ... tiring. >> "I've typed the www-thingy into the Search bit ..." >> >> "Google is NOT USENET" is another one. >> J. > It goes way back, though. Someone came to our house years ago and wanted > to use "the Internet," and I said "sure, there's the computer; it's > connected," and he sat down and stared at the screen for a bit and I > asked "what do you want to do?" and he said "I want the Internet," and > what he meant was Netscape. Better than meaning AOL. -- http://2blog.kreme.com Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-22 09:51 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <220220150951324629%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #70050 |
In article <948geatbm0ut5bkujabmaj2o5vu92lii63@4ax.com>, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote: > On 20 Feb 2015 09:44:32 GMT, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > >On 2015-02-20, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote: > >> > >> To Joe Average User, sure - "URL" has become (mostly) interchangeable > >> with "web page address". > > I should have said "link" or "cite" instead of "site" but I'm lazy > and every byte *is* at some site, somewhere. Anyway, *you* know what I > had intended. > > > >So what? They're wrong. They're wrong about lots of things, especially where > >technology is involved. > > Yeah. "Google is NOT THE INTERNET" for example. Trying to get my > sister to cope with that idea is ... tiring. > "I've typed the www-thingy into the Search bit ..." > > "Google is NOT USENET" is another one. It's not Google, but Facebook which stupid journalists have tried to claim is "Internet 2.0".
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-21 13:09 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <mcas0i$rer$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #70071 |
In article <220220150951324629%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > In article <948geatbm0ut5bkujabmaj2o5vu92lii63@4ax.com>, John > <Man@the.keyboard> wrote: > > On 20 Feb 2015 09:44:32 GMT, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > > >On 2015-02-20, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote: > > >> > > >> To Joe Average User, sure - "URL" has become (mostly) interchangeable > > >> with "web page address". > > > > I should have said "link" or "cite" instead of "site" but I'm lazy > > and every byte *is* at some site, somewhere. Anyway, *you* know what I > > had intended. Yah, true enough - you just joggled my pedantic bone :) > > > > > > >So what? They're wrong. They're wrong about lots of things, especially > > >where > > >technology is involved. > > > > Yeah. "Google is NOT THE INTERNET" for example. Trying to get my > > sister to cope with that idea is ... tiring. > > "I've typed the www-thingy into the Search bit ..." > > > > "Google is NOT USENET" is another one. > > It's not Google, but Facebook which stupid journalists have tried to > claim is "Internet 2.0". -- Security provided by Mssrs Smith and/or Wesson. Brought to you by the letter Q
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | John <Man@the.keyboard> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-22 03:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <b8jiea51fnumc38mitnsj64d15u1brv0is@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #70075 |
On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 13:09:18 -0800, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
wrote:
>In article <220220150951324629%YourName@YourISP.com>,
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <948geatbm0ut5bkujabmaj2o5vu92lii63@4ax.com>, John
>> <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
>> > On 20 Feb 2015 09:44:32 GMT, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>> > >On 2015-02-20, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> To Joe Average User, sure - "URL" has become (mostly) interchangeable
>> > >> with "web page address".
>> >
>> > I should have said "link" or "cite" instead of "site" but I'm lazy
>> > and every byte *is* at some site, somewhere. Anyway, *you* know what I
>> > had intended.
>
>Yah, true enough - you just joggled my pedantic bone :)
Kissy-kissy and {{HUgs}}. No biggee.
J.
>
>> >
>> >
>> > >So what? They're wrong. They're wrong about lots of things, especially
>> > >where
>> > >technology is involved.
>> >
>> > Yeah. "Google is NOT THE INTERNET" for example. Trying to get my
>> > sister to cope with that idea is ... tiring.
>> > "I've typed the www-thingy into the Search bit ..."
>> >
>> > "Google is NOT USENET" is another one.
>>
>> It's not Google, but Facebook which stupid journalists have tried to
>> claim is "Internet 2.0".
Oh, so you've met the BBC's Rory?
J.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | isw <isw@witzend.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-18 09:40 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <isw-3EAA61.09403518022015@news-roam.garlic.com> |
| In reply to | #69891 |
In article <54e49088$0$58725$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: --snip-- > I'd keep your unformatted discs around, though, especially the CD-Rs. > You never know when the wife will ask "can you make a copy of this for > my sister?" Who, if she's like my family, will have a -pad or a -pod or a -tablet or a -phone, and not an optical disc reader/coffee cup holder in sight ... Isaac
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | John <Man@the.keyboard> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-19 05:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <teraea1po7gp7d5m6i9s8lueadp6cdfss4@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #69897 |
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:40:35 -0800, isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote:
>In article <54e49088$0$58725$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com>,
> Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>--snip--
>
>> I'd keep your unformatted discs around, though, especially the CD-Rs.
>> You never know when the wife will ask "can you make a copy of this for
>> my sister?"
>
>Who, if she's like my family, will have a -pad or a -pod or a -tablet or
>a -phone, and not an optical disc reader/coffee cup holder in sight ...
Why not? They are cheap enough to buy a few just to have around in
case you ever need them. Like memory card readers only larger.
You can even get a B-ray reader/writer for not-a-lot that's not much
bigger than a cd-player and runs on any PC, even Macs. Maybe not some
*Nixxy distroes, but that's up to the driver writers.
J.
Random selection, I don't recommend or not-recommend as I haven't
looked at any of these.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=external+blu+ray+drive+usb+3
>
>Isaac
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-18 19:31 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.D10A98F8013281C5B02919BF@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #69891 |
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 08:15:51 -0500, Warren Oates wrote (in article <54e49088$0$58725$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com>): > I've never had any real problems burning CD-Rs or > DVD-Rs (other than the dual-layer ones) The problem isn't with burning them. It's with reading them later. I foolishly believed the "100 year" marketing hype about CD-R's. Less than 10 years later, I have multiple CD-R's which are unreadable due to layer separation, dye migration, plastic clouding, etc. And they weren't El-Cheapo brand either. Plus many have chemically reacted with the vinyl storage sleeves :( I now keep everything on duplicated hard drives. Just picked up a pair of 5 TB Seagates and they pretty much fit everything I can still read. I'm still looking for a good utility to recover the CD-R's with bad sectors. -- Nelson
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-02-18 19:38 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vaednccgXeoQrXjJnZ2dnUU7-c2dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #69911 |
On 2015.02.18 19:31 , Nelson wrote:
> The problem isn't with burning them. It's with reading them later. I
> foolishly believed the "100 year" marketing hype about CD-R's. Less
Ordinary disks: 5 years (and are probably good for 10+ in most cases if
kept properly (cool, dry, dark).
"Gold" archive disks: 100+ years. Also need to be kept cool, dry, dark.
> than 10 years later, I have multiple CD-R's which are unreadable due to
> layer separation, dye migration, plastic clouding, etc. And they
> weren't El-Cheapo brand either. Plus many have chemically reacted with
> the vinyl storage sleeves :(
No issues here. Keep 'em cool, dry, dark and they have legs. I've kept
a few ("just to see") beyond 10 years with no issues.
--
"Your net worth to the world is usually
determined by what remains after your
bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
Benjamin Franklin
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
Page 2 of 5 — ← Prev page 1 [2] 3 4 5 Next page →
Back to top | Article view | comp.sys.mac.system
csiph-web