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Re: [NEWS] Mac App Store broken for old versions of macOS

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On 2026-08-19 05:58:25 +0000, super70s said:
> On 2026-08-19 00:05:18 +0000, Your Name said:
>> On 2026-08-18 23:18:48 +0000, super70s said:
>>> 
>>> I just bought a 2017 iMac running Ventura (so I can run the latest 
>>> irefox), right beside it is a 2014 iMac running Mojave. I've been 
>>> dowloading a lot of new apps that will run on the 2017 iMac and it 
>>> really gets tiresome oing through the kabuki dance of "Open Anyway" in 
>>> the Privacy & Security reference every time I want to launch a new app 
>>> I downloaded from MacUpdate.com.
>> 
>> I'm still using High Sierra, but according to some places these options 
>> still works in Ventura and Sonoma
>> 
>> 
>> Option 1:
>> Instead of double-clicking a newly installed app, right click on the 
>> new app and choose "Open", then confirm you understand you're opening 
>> an 'unknown' app. Usually this works, but for some stubborn apps you 
>> may need to use Option 2.
>> 
>> 
>> Option 2:
>> You can turn off Gatekeeper by using the Terminal command
>> sudo spctl --master-disable
>> That reinstates the hidden "Anywhere" option as the default in System 
>> Settings > Privacy & Security to let you more easily open any new app 
>> by double-clicking them as normal.
>> If you want to turn GateKeeper back on (and hide the "Anywhere" option) 
>> after new app has been opened for the first time, use the Terminal 
>> command
>> sudo spctl --master-enable
> 
> I really don't d/l new apps all that often, I've pretty much got the 
> 2017 iMac set up the way I want.
> 
> Ventura won't support the old 32-bit Intel software so I had to make 
> some updates and find some alternatives for a few favorite apps.
> 
>>> I'll have to say I enjoy working on the 2014 iMac running Mojave better 
>>> than working in Ventura. Why does Apple keep making their desktop GUI's 
>>> weirder as time goes on? The iPhone revolution I guess.
>> 
>> Because Apple keeps adding more and more gimmickry, rather than fixing 
>> the actual existing issues.
> 
> The biggest PITB about Ventura is you have to option-click to get a 
> pop-up for a folder to open in a new window. That has to be inspired by 
> cell phone swiping.

Again, I'm not sure if it still works in newer MacOS versions, but try 
holding down the Command key while double-clicking a folder in the 
Finder and it will open in a new window leaving the original window 
also still open. (You may need to first turn off the Finder > 
Preferences > General option for opening folders in tabs).



> And no window can be any smaller than the largest window you have on 
> the computer, or you have to scroll to see icons on the largest window. 
> What a waste of screen real estate.
> 
> Crazy stuff IMO, just because something works better on an iPhone 
> doesn't mean it translates on a desktop.
> 
> (If anybody knows of any extensions to give you more control over the 
> Finder in Ventura and other more modern OS versions I would appreciate 
> knowing.)

Depends what you mean by "more control"

TinkerTool / TinkerTool System and OnyX both let you change some of the 
'hidden' Finder preferences without going through the Terminal.

Tinker Tool: https://www.bresink.com/products.html
OnyX: https://www.titanium-software.fr/en/onyx.html

There are numerous other little apps and preference panes that give 
extra features to MacOS.



>> It's getting even worse with all the useless "AI" nonsense being 
>> shovelled in now too.  :-(
> 
> Yeah I notice they're plugging the AI stuff pretty heavily if you go to 
> www.apple.com/imac/

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